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  3. Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • H hector@lemmy.today

    Modern shows are lazy, they are like 6, 10 episodes tops. The simpsons in the 90s before they sucked did almost 30. They would take summer off, then breaks on xmas and spring but a show a week otherwise.

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    FudgyMcTubbs
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    Dude.... That was annual, too. These modern day 8-episode shows will have YEARS between seasons. Like, motherfucker, half your scenes are green screen in a big sound studio -- what the fuck is taking you so long?!

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    • RiskableR Riskable

      Talk about the wrong response!

      If they want people to not look away or do something else while the movie is playing you gotta keep it interesting.

      Ya know, like perhaps making movies that aren't just rehashes of the same old stories.

      Make movies and shows that keep people on their toes!

      Making a crime drama? Throw in some traveler from the future or a demon or both! Give the judge two heads because of a "merging accident" or something!

      Putting together a horror movie? Throw in some romance among the monsters! Have them feed each other eyeballs or something!

      Making an anime? Try something totally radical! Like a male protagonist with non-dark hair that has a personality, or make a couple—in love—who get stuck somewhere together, alone have actual sex (like normal teens would) or something!

      Making a K-drama? Add a black guy and make him one of the main characters... Haha, just kidding! That would be too radical! That'd be just as extreme as making an anime that covers the time period a few years after "the hero" formed his harem!

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      #70

      Wow... I dont want to see any of those potential movies you just pitched.

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      • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC corkyskog@sh.itjust.works

        I wouldn't have my phone out to begin with Netflix if you didn't start adding ads.

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        rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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        You pay for ads? There's like a Plex server every 5 houses in my neighborhood, and we are all poor as shit. Maybe that's it though, find you some poor people and stop paying for Netflix

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        • A aeronmelon@lemmy.world

          Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

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          rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          #72

          My wife said that the Wire was hard to follow and boring, but she also checked her phone every 5 minutes and was carrying on a conversation there with her friends. She also impulsively pulled out facebook and scrolled a bit. I pointed all this out but Its still the shows fault somehow.

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          • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

            You tell me:

            -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

            -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

            -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

            -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

            I think not.

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            denaggels@feddit.org
            wrote last edited by
            #73

            Regarding adds: I guess if you fight one lemmy user, others will spawn and come to help. So I would say yes, there are adds

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            • S skisnow@lemmy.ca

              I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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              raiderkev@lemmy.world
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              Meatt daemon

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              • D DeliciousDoorknob

                Yes and no. This season has been pretty weak in the writing department, so some of these ideas that worked before were overused/used poorly this season. And for an 80s-throwback series, it ends rather depressingly, no matter how you spin it. But it's par for the course these days for the final season/finale to shit the bed, I guess.

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                edible_funk
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                Depressingly? It was fully happily ever after. And it just did the same thing every other season did, largely disregard previous seasons to introduce a new big bad for the season leading up to a big monster fight. It was incredibly par for the course, 70 percent style with 30 percent substance. It's not high cinema but it's entertaining tv.

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                • Da Cap’nC Da Cap’n

                  That’s the problem they don’t want to discuss. Writing has gotten seriously shitty.

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                  potustheplant@feddit.nl
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                  #76

                  If you watch shitty movies, yes. There are still plenty of good movies being made.

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                  • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                    Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

                    Make good stuff, and people will come.

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                    potustheplant@feddit.nl
                    wrote last edited by
                    #77

                    Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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                    • P potatar@lemmy.world

                      No they are not. I cannot watch them unless i speed them up past what Netflix allows me. They are so slow and information sparse that i cannot watch them.

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                      potustheplant@feddit.nl
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                      #78

                      You need to relax my dude

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                      • D denaggels@feddit.org

                        Regarding adds: I guess if you fight one lemmy user, others will spawn and come to help. So I would say yes, there are adds

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                        freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                        #79

                        So people having discourse equals advertising?

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                        • F FishFace

                          Do the people who have their phones out in films nowadays watch those old movies without looking at their phones, hmm?

                          Your snark makes you sound like an arsehole.

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                          MotoAsh
                          wrote last edited by motoash@piefed.social
                          #80

                          My snark is because it was an assinine statement that was said rudely. I don't know why you're mad at me and not the rude person with the wrong opinion.

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                          • FudgyMcTubbsF FudgyMcTubbs

                            Dude.... That was annual, too. These modern day 8-episode shows will have YEARS between seasons. Like, motherfucker, half your scenes are green screen in a big sound studio -- what the fuck is taking you so long?!

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                            qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works
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                            They have to wait for Ai tokens to replenish.

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                            • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                              So people having discourse equals advertising?

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                              MotoAsh
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                              Nah, they're making a joke from the misspelling.

                              add: To perform addition. Or a mob joining an ongoing fight in a game.

                              ad: An advertisement.

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                                switorik@lemmy.zip
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                                This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

                                I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

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                                • P potustheplant@feddit.nl

                                  Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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                                  silasmariner@programming.dev
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                                  Pushing daisies was absolutely great, was gutted we never got to see how that played out

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                                  • P potatar@lemmy.world

                                    No they are not. I cannot watch them unless i speed them up past what Netflix allows me. They are so slow and information sparse that i cannot watch them.

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                                    kofe@lemmy.world
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                                    #85

                                    Depending on what shows you watched, plenty from the 90s/00s assumed viewers wouldnt make it for the airing once a week. So they did fluff a bunch and rely on "this week's monster" rather than dense series plots. I remember despising dragon ball z (my brothers favorite) because multiple episodes would go by with fuckin NOTHING happening.

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                                    • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                                      You tell me:

                                      -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                                      -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

                                      -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

                                      -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

                                      I think not.

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                                      wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org
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                                      You forgot:

                                      • Is an algorithm shoving political divisive rage bait down your throat?

                                      But thanks for listing why I like it here

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                                      • edible_funkE edible_funk

                                        Depressingly? It was fully happily ever after. And it just did the same thing every other season did, largely disregard previous seasons to introduce a new big bad for the season leading up to a big monster fight. It was incredibly par for the course, 70 percent style with 30 percent substance. It's not high cinema but it's entertaining tv.

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                                        DeliciousDoorknob
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                                        It was fully happily ever after.

                                        Hard disagree. Fully happily-ever-after wouldn't have ended with
                                        ::: spoiler S5 finale spoilers
                                        the main 16-year-old character either dying or somewhere all on her own with no family/friends/support circle, useful life skills, money or even documents to travel anywhere outside the US. While her boyfriend is stuck with depression and potentially living in delusion that she is still alive. The whole idea that El represents childhood magic and that she has to die/disappear, so other characters could move on is genuinely out of touch and potentially harmful, considering she's been "used, abused and manipulated" since she was born. Sends a real fucked up message there. This could have worked, if the show had finished in one season. But it does not work after 5 seasons of growth (though in S5 she was completely sidelined). The one character that deserved happily ever after, and they didn't give it to her. Not to mention how Vickie has been completely forgotten in the epilogue, or rather discarded with an offhanded comment about being an "overbearing significant other", when Robin has been an asshole to her the entire season.
                                        :::

                                        I actually would have loved a true happily-ever-after. This tired trend of every show—even something that's supposed to be lighthearted—getting a tragic or "bittersweer" ending, because that's considered "deep", should just die already.

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                                        • S skisnow@lemmy.ca

                                          I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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                                          optissima@lemmy.world
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                                          Blame his agent for getting him a pokemon gig as a pokemon

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