PieFed Users Surge!
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But...there's no pie!!!
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Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.
And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.
IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.
So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.
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Maybe this is showing my age and the association will not materialize in the minds of younger people, but boardnet makes me think of a bunch of old-school phpBB message board forums.
We used to have https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB?tab=readme-ov-file
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Almost all of these are able to be turned off.
By "social credit" you just mean a toned down version of Reddits karma (that doesn't track positive score)?
No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.
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His source is ml, you can easily take his comment as malicious
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I don't see why it has to end in verse. Like, boardnet sounds good (in my opinion), board network, because Lemmy/piefed is a network of boards.
Boardnet, doesn't sound too bad indeed. Maybe you should post it somewhere as a suggested alternative to Threadiverse
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Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.
Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.
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Maybe this is showing my age and the association will not materialize in the minds of younger people, but boardnet makes me think of a bunch of old-school phpBB message board forums.
The forums I visited in those days was threaded, with trees to view commons. It was a proto version of the way Lemmy/Piefed/Reddit comments work, you just could only see one comment at a time. I never liked the flat style of PHPBB and the like.
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Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.
And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.
IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.
So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.
Thank you
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The forums I visited in those days was threaded, with trees to view commons. It was a proto version of the way Lemmy/Piefed/Reddit comments work, you just could only see one comment at a time. I never liked the flat style of PHPBB and the like.
Really? I don't have any memories of forums like that, only the old school flat threads with one comment at a time in chronological order.
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No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.
You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.
There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.
- Reputation is people's reaction to your comment and post.
- attitude is how you vote. If you do mass downvote, your ability to downvote is removed until you reach a balance between upvote/downvote.
When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it's easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That's why posting gif doesn't credit you reputation. You can't use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.
That's why it works like that.
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Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.
And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.
IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.
So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.
It's a good example of the Paradox of Tolerance:
"if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance"
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I sure hope these are users and not bots...
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I sure hope these are users and not bots...
It's from a few promotional posts on Reddit, so it's users.
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Welcome here!
Joke's on you guys, I'm viewing this post from LEMMY!
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Hm, I wouldn't have known rocket is faster, since lightning is instantaneous in real life.
Perhaps a speedometer at different speeds and color chunks (low adds first 3rd is filled green, medium adds yellow to the next 3rd, fast adds red to last chunk) would be more intuitive? Though that could also be interpreted as server capacity if the word speed isn't next to the icon. Maybe a little icon legend somewhere nearby could help, or a question mark sign next to the speed icon that explains what it is?
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Hm, I wouldn't have known rocket is faster, since lightning is instantaneous in real life.
Perhaps a speedometer at different speeds and color chunks (low adds first 3rd is filled green, medium adds yellow to the next 3rd, fast adds red to last chunk) would be more intuitive? Though that could also be interpreted as server capacity if the word speed isn't next to the icon. Maybe a little icon legend somewhere nearby could help, or a question mark sign next to the speed icon that explains what it is?
Yes, probably.
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Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.
Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.
I'm now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.
Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?
Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as "See ? Piefed's staff censorship ideas they doesn't agree."
I went to the your gif and read comments : you won't see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.
Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.
Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev's political opinions but that's not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev's channel, i helped him.
Let's go back to your post :
- The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
- The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag...
- opiniated ? A software isn't neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit.
- Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads...we are better of on the fediverse, don't you think ?
You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote...and explain your point, why this and that...but not the way you did.
So please edit your comment and remove those above part
Users can choose what they prefer :
- the way communities are moderated and managed
- their software and its features, ui...
And i'm happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that's great.
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I'm now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.
Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?
Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as "See ? Piefed's staff censorship ideas they doesn't agree."
I went to the your gif and read comments : you won't see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.
Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.
Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev's political opinions but that's not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev's channel, i helped him.
Let's go back to your post :
- The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
- The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag...
- opiniated ? A software isn't neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit.
- Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads...we are better of on the fediverse, don't you think ?
You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote...and explain your point, why this and that...but not the way you did.
So please edit your comment and remove those above part
Users can choose what they prefer :
- the way communities are moderated and managed
- their software and its features, ui...
And i'm happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that's great.
I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.
I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.
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Really? I don't have any memories of forums like that, only the old school flat threads with one comment at a time in chronological order.
It wasn't a common format for sure. It was the forums for BYOND, a "game engine" specifically designed to make multiplayer games easily. You could think of it as a proto roblox.
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