Whats the best alternative to twitch and youtube?

[grumpy404@lemmy.zip]

Whats the best alternative in the fediverse to youtube or twitch, what makes it good or not?

What would you like to suggest or ask here?

[artyom@piefed.social]

Peertube and Owncast

[thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com]

in my search for a youtube replacement i have found a few small yt-like alternatives that are fractured and niche in content. which at the moment is the only model available against a monolith like yt.

the problem is that once any of these smaller site were to gather as much content as yt they would have to use that advantage like yt does to make it profitable to keep the servers running and the support/dev staff happy.

so i haven't seen a path forward away from yt until that basic issue becomes solved. perhaps lots of small yt niche sites gathered under a federated website i don't know

[hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz]

Peertube for long tech videos. You'll find lots of linux people here. Sure, there's pretty much everything else too, but that's what I use Peertube for.

Odysee for a wide range of videos in general. Many youtubers have backed up their videos here.

Loops for short videos... more like a tiktok clone really.

[staden_@pawb.social]

As far as I know, there is no plataform/software on the fediverse with the features to make monetization of videos/livestreams doable.

We have peertube. You can post videos and do lives on it, but I don't think it's possible to do it as a source of income

[dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf]

PeerTube which can simultaneously be an alternative to YT and Twitch both although it primarily aims to be a YT alternative, and also Owncast as well for an alternative to Twitch specifically.

Loops works as a Titkok alternative.

As for monetization on PeerTube, you could get funding through platforms like LiberaPay.

[lettruthout@lemmy.world]

It seems like some kind of micro-transaction system could solve this problem. I wonder how much yt makes per view, pennies?

[meldrik@lemmy.wtf]

PeerTube as an alternative to YouTube. It has both on-demand-video and live streaming.

Owncast as an alternative to Twitch. No doubt.

[ptz@dubvee.org]

I haven't been to Odysee for a good while, but is it still Rumble-lite?

I only learned of Odysee because I saw a video linked to it here and went directly to the video. When I saw it had embed code, I added support in Tesseract UI so the videos would play from the post. Then I went to the main site and saw the front page full of rightwing nutjob rants and vaccine skepticism and was like "nope". Had I saw that beforehand, I wouldn't have added embed support, but the work was already done so I left it in. That's basically why I refuse to add embed support for Rumble.

Wondering if ownership/leadership/policies have changed since about 2 years ago when I wrote the embed components for it and last interacted with it.

[palordrolap@fedia.io]

Tangential advice: Many people use YouTube (and formerly Twitch until they nixed it) as a place to store videos. As in the only copy of a video is hosted there.

If your videos are precious to you (or you think they're going to be), make arrangements for them to be at least stored elsewhere, if not hosted. That's not going to be cheap what with hardware prices going through the roof, personally or third-party, but it is necessary because no host is both trustworthy and permanent.

Actually not even self-storage is as trustworthy and permanent as we'd like, but it's still better than any alternative for data retention.

Also, donate to your chosen Fediverse host(s) if you can.

[hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz]

No shortage of trash, but that's true for all platforms.

I just used the customize button on the top right corner and moved politics and a bunch of other junk to the "hide" column. This way, the home feed has a chance of containing things worth watching. Mostly though, I just use Odysee for watching the few channels I care about. Incidentally, I arranged the "followed" section to the top of the list.

As a result, I don't see any conspiracy or MAGA nonsense at all.

[eleijeep@piefed.social]

Owncast directory is one collection of owncast streams.

[auster@thebrainbin.org]

I think Peertube is the best, not immediately but in potential. Given that, I'd suggest sticking around, interacting, making contents yourself and sharing stuff from there with your friends, so the environment gets traction and so those interested in improving the engine, the environment or just doing the same you did for traction, gravitate towards.

Personally, I'd say it's the same as people saying Lemmy wouldn't go anywhere when Spez was going coo-coo some years ago. While Lemmy itself is more or less stagnant, it was a good kickstart then. And now, from what I saw in statistics some weeks back, comments are increasing on the "threadiverse" even if posts are slowly decreasing, which afaik is a better sign of organic growth.

[auster@thebrainbin.org]

Hardware prices are weird. From what I follow and followed of companies like GOG and ZP, older games usually have their source codes lost because storage was way too expensive and so older code versions were deleted, that around the 80's~90's. And observing cycles, I also notice one where storage becomes cheaper and holding more data with the same space, followed by big industry players kicking the bucket about storage optimization, then rinse and repeat. But now at least, I feel like there's potential for it to be mitigated, as everyone with access to a forum or some other form of social media has the potential to give their opinions, including regarding this ups and downs cycle, and so reverberating even in those that in decades prior could not even notice the tendency.

[dfx4509b@lemmy.wtf]

Not even that, per Louis Rossmann, you don't even get a full penny in ad revenue, just fractions of a penny. YT's ad revenue system is a scam.