Is Star Trek Discovery worth a go if I liked Picard and like Strange New Worlds?
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I can’t imagine enjoying Picard. I did 3 1/2 episodes of discovery and was bored out of my mind I mean, it literally is like molasses and cold weather.
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Yes.
First Star Trek Discovery as a show is a generally ok show. It has good moments, it has bad moments, it has boring moments. It should have more good moments, but it has what it has.
As a Star Trek show, which is defined as the original Star Trek and 90s Trek (Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and maybe Enterprise depending who you ask), it isn't that. Strange New Worlds is mostly that.
Discovery is a lot more action heavy with a lot of focus on a particular character as opposed to a whole crew. We're not asking as much about humanity or philosophical questions.
Now Picard is a weird one. Each of the three seasons are wildly different. Season 1 is the style you would expect from Discovery. Season 2 was a big what if season. Season 3 was a one last ride nostalgia adventure.
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Star Trek The Next Generation might give you more of what you liked about Strange New Worlds and Picard. TNG gets pretty good from season 3 on or so. It’s more episodic, so you can watch a few well regarded episodes first before you dive in.
Discovery is different as it follows one main character, instead of an ensemble crew like SNW. The quality of Discovery varies wildly, however I liked the first two seasons overall. It’s worth trying I‘d say.
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It's Star Trek.
It's perhaps not the best Trek, and depending who you ask it may not be the worst.
But if you like one Star Trek show, you may as well give the others a shot.
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Maybe, maybe not.
If you like cheap serialized drama, space pew-pew, main characters who are always right even if they are wrong and teary-eyed meaningless speeches with lots of pathos then maybe STD might be the „Star Trek“ for you. And that’s fine. We all have our guilty pleasures.
If you enjoyed the last season of Picard the most, prefer episodic content and can forgive a few lame (and even fewer really bad) episodes then maybe try TNG first.
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Star Trek The Next Generation might give you more of what you liked about Strange New Worlds and Picard. TNG gets pretty good from season 3 on or so. It’s more episodic, so you can watch a few well regarded episodes first before you dive in.
Discovery is different as it follows one main character, instead of an ensemble crew like SNW. The quality of Discovery varies wildly, however I liked the first two seasons overall. It’s worth trying I‘d say.
Tng, voyager, and ds9 are some of the best tv ever made. Im also quite fond of most of the original but a lot of it hasnt aged too well.
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Tng, voyager, and ds9 are some of the best tv ever made. Im also quite fond of most of the original but a lot of it hasnt aged too well.
Voyager has its moments, but I would consider it the weakest of the three. Admittedly, I didn't keep up with the whole series, because I was kinda bored of the concept.
TNG is classic episodic Trek, with very good writing in most of its episodes, even if the first season was a bit weak at spots. Even then, parts of the first season were still interesting. It really hits its stride on the 3rd season.
DS9 is my favorite Trek. It tackled darker themes that TNG and Roddenberry didn't want to touch, shades of gray that exposed cracks in the Federation, but still remains Star Trek. It didn't completely throw away the ideals of the Federation in a weakly-written, grimdark manner like Picard. DS9 had some of the best written episodes, and by the 2nd or 3rd season, it was (copying off of B5) telling an overarching narrative that really kept you interested.
Though, Babylon 5 is the series that really started the whole narrative approach to sci-fi. I love both B5 and DS9, but DS9 did steal a ton of ideas from the B5 bible that JMS gave Paramount, during his initial pitch. DS9 had a lot of really good individual episodes, but I thought Babylon 5 had a better, more memorable narrative.
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Voyager has its moments, but I would consider it the weakest of the three. Admittedly, I didn't keep up with the whole series, because I was kinda bored of the concept.
TNG is classic episodic Trek, with very good writing in most of its episodes, even if the first season was a bit weak at spots. Even then, parts of the first season were still interesting. It really hits its stride on the 3rd season.
DS9 is my favorite Trek. It tackled darker themes that TNG and Roddenberry didn't want to touch, shades of gray that exposed cracks in the Federation, but still remains Star Trek. It didn't completely throw away the ideals of the Federation in a weakly-written, grimdark manner like Picard. DS9 had some of the best written episodes, and by the 2nd or 3rd season, it was (copying off of B5) telling an overarching narrative that really kept you interested.
Though, Babylon 5 is the series that really started the whole narrative approach to sci-fi. I love both B5 and DS9, but DS9 did steal a ton of ideas from the B5 bible that JMS gave Paramount, during his initial pitch. DS9 had a lot of really good individual episodes, but I thought Babylon 5 had a better, more memorable narrative.
Fully agreed on B5 and DS9. Unmatched in many ways.
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Nah. It's not good regardless of anything you've ever seen before.
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A lot of hate for it but every explanation of the hate is kinda bigoted.
Chalking up Discovery’s unpopularity as “bigotry” is lazy.
- The writing is really really poor. Like Picard season 2 level poor.
- Someone cries tears about something almost every episode.
- You won’t remember half the names of the bridge crew because they are barely used each season.
- The ship travels the universe through the magic of mushrooms.
- Eating sentient species is used as (unfunny) humor.
- Everyone cusses because the producers think 20th century vernacular is still used centuries later.
- Two words: programmable matter.
- And spoiler: Millions of people die and dilithium stops working because a single alien has… a crying jag. (See point 1 & 2).
Just absolutely horrible writing and plot points. Perfectly good actors and characters wasted every season.
That said, Doug Jones steals the show and creates a fascinating character.
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Give Discovery a try, just be aware that it's kind of uneven in quality the first season or so because of a lot of behind the scenes changes during the first season.
Discovery is very different in tone than the TNG era Trek shows and I don't think it's quite as good but it's decent TV.
Lots of people just want the current Trek shows to be similar to the shows from that era but updated for the 21st century and they're not that.
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Voyager has its moments, but I would consider it the weakest of the three. Admittedly, I didn't keep up with the whole series, because I was kinda bored of the concept.
TNG is classic episodic Trek, with very good writing in most of its episodes, even if the first season was a bit weak at spots. Even then, parts of the first season were still interesting. It really hits its stride on the 3rd season.
DS9 is my favorite Trek. It tackled darker themes that TNG and Roddenberry didn't want to touch, shades of gray that exposed cracks in the Federation, but still remains Star Trek. It didn't completely throw away the ideals of the Federation in a weakly-written, grimdark manner like Picard. DS9 had some of the best written episodes, and by the 2nd or 3rd season, it was (copying off of B5) telling an overarching narrative that really kept you interested.
Though, Babylon 5 is the series that really started the whole narrative approach to sci-fi. I love both B5 and DS9, but DS9 did steal a ton of ideas from the B5 bible that JMS gave Paramount, during his initial pitch. DS9 had a lot of really good individual episodes, but I thought Babylon 5 had a better, more memorable narrative.
Voyager has some very low lows and some very high highs. I enjoyed the whole "wheres your prime directive now eh?" aspect of it, and 7 of 9 is a really fun character
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Voyager has some very low lows and some very high highs. I enjoyed the whole "wheres your prime directive now eh?" aspect of it, and 7 of 9 is a really fun character
7 of 9 is a really fun character
I love the holo doc too.
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7 of 9 is a really fun character
I love the holo doc too.
Very good character yes! Esp after he can leave the medbay
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Short answer no.
Long answer: noooooooo!Useful answer: Meh. First of all there are some cool storylines and cool characters. There are also utter shit in both regards. My worst gripe is Michael "The Wailer" Burnham. She is by far, like warp 9 far, the most over-emotional character in all of Star trek history. Never mind the fact that she is a star fleet officer who should be somewhat professional, she was also raised by Spock's parents, which is utterly invented out of whole crap for discovery, on Vulcan. If she behaved the way she does on ST:D one tenth of the time she was on Vulcan, they would have put her in an asylum or shipped her back to earth. It is intolerable to watch a star fleet officer bawling in every other episode.
The spore drive. Again, no real connection to the tech of any previous trektech, and never heard of again later. I like the concept actually, but I feel it belongs in another universe, not trek.
The twists. Subverting expectations seems to have been the foundation of the series. While a few surprises are great, discovery seems to hammer the expired equine with twists until it more resembles a gory corkscrew than a horse.
I could go on. I won't.
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Disco is a fun ride, just don't think about it too much.
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Chalking up Discovery’s unpopularity as “bigotry” is lazy.
- The writing is really really poor. Like Picard season 2 level poor.
- Someone cries tears about something almost every episode.
- You won’t remember half the names of the bridge crew because they are barely used each season.
- The ship travels the universe through the magic of mushrooms.
- Eating sentient species is used as (unfunny) humor.
- Everyone cusses because the producers think 20th century vernacular is still used centuries later.
- Two words: programmable matter.
- And spoiler: Millions of people die and dilithium stops working because a single alien has… a crying jag. (See point 1 & 2).
Just absolutely horrible writing and plot points. Perfectly good actors and characters wasted every season.
That said, Doug Jones steals the show and creates a fascinating character.
Awww. You don't like something but you stick around and watch it anyway. But you bitch bitch bitch about it. I don't like a show I don't watch it. Like that shit show game of thrones and many others. I tuned out on that show in the second episode and never looked back
There is so much wrong with your bullet points than I'm willing to go through considering you wont want to change your mind. So I wont try.
Its funny that you used the 20th century for vernacular when we are in the 21st century and its still all quite common. I guess you wold prefer made up profanity like frak on battle star.
You don't want entertainment. You want boring reality and I'm thinking you are unhappy with that as well. They made the characters more human and you don't like it. Kinda sad really and I'm not talking about the show.
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SNW is a spinoff of Discovery. As someone who enjoyed both Picard and SNW, I think you will enjoy it. At the very least it will broaden the Star Trek universe for you. I suggest watching TOS unaired pilot (The Cage) or the two part episode "The Menagerie" before Discovery season 2 to (re)introduce Pike (and possibly Spock) to you and explain their back stories.
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