we need more users
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This. This is the main complaining I see over the Fediverse when I try to suggest it to people. They enter Lemmy to give it a check and go "It's all politics?"
did you mention that reddit is all politics as well. reddit is intentionally forcing politics to front page, and anypolitics adjacent topics. almost all sports, celebrity talk eventually leads to politics.
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I've lost track of how many subs I've been banned from cause I pissed off a friend of a mod.
oh i was regularly switching to a new account thats been warmed, up after multiple sub bans. up until reddit caught up, and just banned everyone with accts associated with other accts that were sub banned, but unbanned due to a time limit. and now reddit just straight up bans people for inactivity and new accts. mods love to misconstrue your comment,
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if I knew, I wouldn't ask tbh...
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Which wasn’t the case early on, from my experience. Instead, when Lemmy had its first big boom it was filled with people looking for a non-toxic, real conversation. I still find that to be the case in replies, but my front page tends to be filled with stories where commenters are dissimilar to Reddit, less intellectual responses and more edgy hyperbole.
Seriously though, the people responding to political posts with thinly veiled calls to harm or kill political leaders need to be banned on the spot. Absolutely intolerable.
i noticed alot of the political posts has subtle tankie infilitration in it, try to stir shit to cause drama, because thier own instances isnt getting traffic because its been defederate, they often hide the purpose of the post , under the guise "the other opinion"
reddit itself already bans this type of behaviour, and any vague suggestion of it, which is pretty problematic itself.
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For me I deleted my account a month ago after 2 years of lemmy. I forgot about this account and jerboa install, the only community sub is this one haha.
I figure I'll just say why I left, this place became a depressing shit hole.
The communities aren't niche enough because it's not big enough, so it's just a shit experience. I'm just going to look to old school forums again. Phpbb you must still be out there..
I figure I'll still keep this account in case I need to use it for something useful. One never knows when they'll get lost on the seas and need some directions.
when the other big instance shut down, it just got distilled to mostly politics, which /worlds only. i was enjoying the cinema/movies, tv show communities until it just mostly disappeared. some rare subs too.
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The culture wars have reached the fediverse, and it's making me less happy to be here. I don't want to hang out in places where people use slurs and insults, even if they're not aimed at me. I'm seeing more casual misogyny/misandry, more casual use of the r**** slur, more perfectionist gatekeeping, more assumptions, and just less good-faith comments in general.
I'd advertise, but I'm starting to look for an alternative to lemmy.
i smell bots, and tankie infiltration into the rest of limit, since the triad is defederate, thier members are trying to branch out into other communities.
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I think part of the issue is new users not understanding or feeling comfortable with the fediverse (myself included a while ago). Even after searching for a bit and looking it up I can barely get how it works, but there's really no guide with the common terms anywhere, how to get started, the difference between platforms and what they have in common etc.
The benefits are the first thing you hear about, but they seem more like jargon terms than actually anything functional.Reddit has better accessibility and user retainment, alongside with a library of old posts that are good for searching some niche stuff up.
For example, if I were to get a friend into lemmy, I'm not really sure how I can explain it to them, or where to start other than the copy paste "decentralized" "federated" stuff. It doesn't really answer stuff like who moderates it, develops it, owns it, or what's the difference between lemmy, piefed mbin, how do they interact with each other.
I believe that an introductory "oficial" post on the front of each platform in layman's terms would be great to get new users to stay.google also plays heavily into it, as they promote reddit searches in thier front page, this is usually what gets people hooked to reddit.
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It seems strange that these two curves so closely match eachother in shape.
When 6month active users drop that means 6 months ago a user stopped using the platform.
When monthly active users drop that means a month ago a user stopped using the platform.
So this would suggest that there is a correlation between user attrition 6 months ago and last month.it kinda correlates with what the "p47" have done controversial and it also correlates with/timing of reddits purges too.
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I guess ragebait really is what the people want. Its a bit sad but oh well.
thats how reddit works, up until p45, there was very little rage bait, after he was elected russia started pushing it heavily on reddit, and thats where we are now with reddit.
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I've been using Lemmy less because it's so depressing. It feels like a majority of the engagement is with depressing US politics and a strong left bias (to be clear, I also hate the current government). Unlike most, I really like most of the nerdy tech content.
Which is why I've been lurking more on Hacker News lately, it's tech minded forums with an appropriate level of politics and more nuanced takes. And as a bonus the interface even less bloated (in terms of resource usage) than any Lemmy frontend I've tried.
“Strong left bias” is not bias, it is just a reflection of normal human decency. If you mean that fake leftists like the dbzero fascists are around a lot, I would agree and it’s a problem.
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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
I'm here, I just never comment :3
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Yeah. The .world news community mods don’t seem to care about clickbait, misinformation, calls for violence or doxxing or rape, as long as they’re the “correct” politics. Calling for Ivanka Trump to get shot? Serious deepfake meme? Perfectly acceptable, apparently, in spite of the admins’ pushback.
But make a comment like yours, and the moderation is… that.
I haven’t even blocked the tankie communities or anything, but I had to block /c/politics, as they’re so active they pollute my feed.
I’m fine with leaving that part of Lemmy permanently blocked though.
kinda odd you dint block the tankies, they are just as problematic if not more so. thats why i had them blocked. i had to block politics because the people are subtly promoting pro-zionist content.
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the startrek instance has the best culture IMO. Its just wholesome startrek posting and they always seem to dig up a relevant scene.
I THINK THE main poster that post regularly, was too whiney and somewhat annoying. the one that named himself after the STD characther.
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Can I ask a different, more difficult question?
Where are people going?
Lemmy Isn't Quite It? Mastodon is too formal. Blusky is too political.
Lemmy was a clone of Reddit. Not an improvement on it.
Reddit I think
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Today is my first day here and I've mostly just been wandering hobby/interest groups!
I think the biggest barrier for new users is that the whole system here is pretty complicated with the "decentralized" model. I don't really understand what it means or how it works, what the difference between the various servers are, or what to join or even which app to download. There are a lot of options and complicated technical terms (like "federated", "fediverse") you need to research just so you can sign up. The fact that you have to write all of these explanations about it doesn't really help. A platform like reddit (which I migrated from) is clean, easy to understand, and makes sense to the casual user.
As for the political stuff, I think people here should engage more with positive content. We should make the wholesome, fun stuff popular because it's appealing. Post about the cool/funny/awesome/interesting stuff you encounter every day; talk about the arts, your hobbies, your funny life fuck ups, your non-serious relationship woes, your pets, etc.! In my exploration today I noticed those kinds of communities barely get any interaction whereas the news/political ones are always active.
Welcome! The thing worth knowing is that corporate social media has intentionally trained you to expect zero friction because that's the basis of their business model - to trap you. Once you spend a bit of time or watch a YT video and understand how lemmy works, it's not that complicated at all.
Consider that things worth doing in life are not so easy that they suck you in. No one gets in shape at the gym on accident. A small bit of effort pays off here.
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“Strong left bias” is not bias, it is just a reflection of normal human decency. If you mean that fake leftists like the dbzero fascists are around a lot, I would agree and it’s a problem.
Imagine being so biased that you are completely blind to the facts.
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Can I ask a different, more difficult question?
Where are people going?
Lemmy Isn't Quite It? Mastodon is too formal. Blusky is too political.
Lemmy was a clone of Reddit. Not an improvement on it.
And I at least was mostly lurking on reddit, as well, only commenting occasionally.
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“Strong left bias” is not bias, it is just a reflection of normal human decency. If you mean that fake leftists like the dbzero fascists are around a lot, I would agree and it’s a problem.
Since when are dbzero users racists?
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I send my friends memes. They ask "Muad'dib, where do you get these great memes?" I say I get my great memes from Lemmy. They instantly lose interest, because Lemmy is full of tankies and kinphobes
What's a kinphobe?
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Pruning is a bad idea imo. Old communities here (like on reddit) can be great resources for solutions to technical problems, for example. And weird one-off communities that have like 2 memes from a decade ago can be really funny when you get linked to them.
Perhaps a notification-type nag, a tab of "communities you used to use but haven't posted to for a while" but with a snappier title, alongside "local" and "all".
and now PieFed supports moving posts! https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1653370/piefed-1-5-is-released-move-posts-upload-video-files-better-chat-and-more
So Piefed admins/mods could consolidate communities by moving the posts before deleting the community
