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Why is Pixelfed an extra network and not just a Mastodon client?

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  • rglullis@communick.newsR rglullis@communick.news

    Once you achieve any kind of scale, whoever your client is querying to get the book data for those kinds of queries is going to block you

    You know that the whole of wikidata can be copied with just a few hundreds of GBs, right? There are plenty of examples of community-driven data providers (especially in the *arr space), so I can bet that there would be more people setting up RDF data servers (which is mostly read-heavy, public data sharing) than people willing to set up their Mastodon/Lemmy/GoToSocial server - because that involves replicating data from everyone else, dealing with network partitions, etc...

    Also, there are countless ways to make this less dependent on any big server, the client could pull specific subsets of the data and cache data locally so the more they are used the less they would need to fetch remote resources.

    Think of it like this: a client-first application that understands linked data would be no different than a traditional web browser, but the main difference is that the client would only use json-ld and not HTML.

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    combatwombatesq@lemmy.world
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    Thanks for sharing this. To answer your question”you know…, right?” questions — no, I didn’t, and that is why I was asking.

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    • rglullis@communick.newsR rglullis@communick.news

      It stores the complete data for any given user post in its databases

      That is not fully correct. The index the data from the different personal data servers, and they host the largest personal data server out there, but you can have your own PDS and interact with other Bluesky users without having to rely on their data.

      This means each one has its own data model, internal storage architecture, and streams/APIs.

      Yeah, but why? ActivityPub already provides the "data model" and the API. Internal storage is an implementation detail. Why do we continue to accept this idea that each different mode of interaction with the social graph requires an entirely separate server?

      Because they were built for different purposes, they support different features

      Like OP said, on bluesky is possible to have different "shells" that interact with the network. Why wouldn't that be possible on ActivityPub?

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      Oi! Vou falar com outros devs brasileiros amanhã sobre criar um implementação genérica do protocolo, com diferentes módulos para cada API (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc)
      https://mastodon.social/@kariboka/116032991048115380

      Gostaria de te convidar pra dar ideias ou participar o quanto você puder/quiser

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      • AdemirA Ademir

        Oi! Vou falar com outros devs brasileiros amanhã sobre criar um implementação genérica do protocolo, com diferentes módulos para cada API (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc)
        https://mastodon.social/@kariboka/116032991048115380

        Gostaria de te convidar pra dar ideias ou participar o quanto você puder/quiser

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        Cara, eu já estou com com uns 70% da API do Lemmy implementada, e passei esse fim de semana todo trabalhando numa entensão pro browser que "puxa" o grafo social localmente e mostra os dados, como se fosse um browser. Quero ver se consigo fazer posts via C2S antes de ir dormir. 🙂

        Tudo isso pra dizer: sim, eu tenho muito pitaco pra dar nessa história...

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