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  • K king_comrade@lemmy.world

    Ah cheers for the clarity, my mistake

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    Cowbee [he/they]
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    #186

    No worries!

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    • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

      @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

      Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

      Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

      ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

      The whole study makes a good read.

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      thoro@lemmy.ml
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      #187

      I liked the part where they conflate anti Zionism with antisemitism, show one comment/"post" as proof, and don't reference it so readers can view upvotes or context around said post.

      ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]E 1 Reply Last reply
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      • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

        @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

        Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

        Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

        ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

        The whole study makes a good read.

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        Cowbee [he/they]
        wrote last edited by cowbee@lemmy.ml
        #188

        Communist subreddits like r/GenZedong and lately r/TheDeprogram, after being banned by Reddit, migrated largely to Lemmygrad.ml. I agree that the study is a good read, but for humor, not serious journalism. Their study is essentially them finding out that communists are on a communist platform, and then the study conductors conflate anti-Zionism with anti-semitism, a common hasbara tactic.

        Nothing you said contradicts that Lemmygrad.ml is Marxist-Leninist, all you've really done is confirm that it is, while also conflating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism. Further, the only comment they point out as anti-semitic, was in fact removed by the moderation for spilling over the edge, as comrade Edie pointed out here. Claiming grad is anti-semitic because of comments it removes is tortured logic.

        Also not sure why you're tagging my grad account, if I was trying to hide that I wouldn't post in my account description that I'm a Marxist-Leninist, nor would I have made my grad account the same name as my Hexbear and Lemmy.ml accounts.

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        • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

          @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

          Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

          Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

          ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

          The whole study makes a good read.

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          Diva (she/her)
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          #189

          The whole study makes a good read.

          Srry I can't take it seriously when the author is this guy

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          • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

            okay but it's also a normal thing for the CPC to monitor and influence online spaces and it's certainly not restricted to lemmy

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            Cowbee [he/they]
            wrote last edited by cowbee@lemmy.ml
            #190

            To a degree, perhaps, though the CPC largely sticks to the Chinese sphere of the internet. I haven't seen any evidence for CPC interference in Lemmy though, nor of widespread CPC influence over western, English-speaking spaces. China doesn't really care as much for that, plus the implication is that the US Empire is fundamentally weaker than the PRC at propagandizing on the Statesian "home turf" when we know the opposite is the case.

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            • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

              The whole study makes a good read.

              Srry I can't take it seriously when the author is this guy

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              Cowbee [he/they]
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              #191

              Is that real?

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              • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                I liked the part where they conflate anti Zionism with antisemitism, show one comment/"post" as proof, and don't reference it so readers can view upvotes or context around said post.

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                wrote last edited by edie@lemmy.ml
                #192

                https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

                5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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                • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                  Is that real?

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                  Diva (she/her)
                  wrote last edited by
                  #193

                  Yes lol

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                    https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

                    5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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                    thoro@lemmy.ml
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                    #194

                    Lmao wow

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                    • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

                      Yes lol

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                      Cowbee [he/they]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #195

                      Incredible, the shining knight of Zionism and anti-communism.

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                        https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

                        5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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                        #196

                        I thought that's what happened with that one, thanks for digging it up!

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                        • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                          I thought that's what happened with that one, thanks for digging it up!

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                          #197

                          It was actually TankieTanuki that dug it up https://hexbear.net/comment/6404332

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                          • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

                            Yes lol

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                            king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                            #198

                            Holy shit 😂

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                              It was actually TankieTanuki that dug it up https://hexbear.net/comment/6404332

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                              #199

                              Ah, thanks!

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                              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                                #200

                                Chinese, Chinese, Chinese! Doesn't anyone care about the Lithuanians and what they are doing!!?? /s

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                                • goat@sh.itjust.worksG goat@sh.itjust.works

                                  ah yes, corporate media such as... the BBC

                                  truly yank brained

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                                  chaosad@lemmy.world
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                                  #201

                                  Are you trying to be ironic? Of course the BBC is pro imperialism.

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                                  • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                                    Days in the fediverse comm without explicit anti-communism and red scare fearmongering: 0

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                                    chaosad@lemmy.world
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                                    #202

                                    Right? Hahahahaha

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                                    • K KryptonBlur

                                      I tend to find Lemmy to be pretty good at being critical of the US

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                                      chaosad@lemmy.world
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                                      #203

                                      Lemmy world isn't

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                        chloroken@lemmy.ml
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                                        Sinophobia will get you nowhere. Those "Chinese State Actors" on the Fediverse are largely Western crackers who read theory and oppose Imperialism. You shouldn't bogeyman an entire nation you don't know anything about, this is xenophobic and also works against the working class.

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                                        • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

                                          @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

                                          Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

                                          Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

                                          ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

                                          The whole study makes a good read.

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                                          chloroken@lemmy.ml
                                          wrote last edited by chloroken@lemmy.ml
                                          #205

                                          The problem with political studies is that they're nonscientific. It's a blog post they're calling a study. No amount of statistical analysis or clever methodology makes this a proper study because it's based on political opinions. A terrible, ignorant set of opinions at that.

                                          "But isn't Marxism a study of politics?!" No, it's a body of works in economics and historical analysis, not wayward political opinions.

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