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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • goat@sh.itjust.worksG goat@sh.itjust.works

    ah yes, corporate media such as... the BBC

    truly yank brained

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    chaosad@lemmy.world
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    #201

    Are you trying to be ironic? Of course the BBC is pro imperialism.

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    • T thoro@lemmy.ml

      Days in the fediverse comm without explicit anti-communism and red scare fearmongering: 0

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      chaosad@lemmy.world
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      #202

      Right? Hahahahaha

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      • K KryptonBlur

        I tend to find Lemmy to be pretty good at being critical of the US

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        chaosad@lemmy.world
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        #203

        Lemmy world isn't

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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          chloroken@lemmy.ml
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          #204

          Sinophobia will get you nowhere. Those "Chinese State Actors" on the Fediverse are largely Western crackers who read theory and oppose Imperialism. You shouldn't bogeyman an entire nation you don't know anything about, this is xenophobic and also works against the working class.

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          • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

            @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

            Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

            Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

            ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

            The whole study makes a good read.

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            chloroken@lemmy.ml
            wrote last edited by chloroken@lemmy.ml
            #205

            The problem with political studies is that they're nonscientific. It's a blog post they're calling a study. No amount of statistical analysis or clever methodology makes this a proper study because it's based on political opinions. A terrible, ignorant set of opinions at that.

            "But isn't Marxism a study of politics?!" No, it's a body of works in economics and historical analysis, not wayward political opinions.

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            • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

              Pretty sure these are all the same person. If you ever engage, you can recognize the same asshole attitude. I've seen multiple of them up/down vote comments where no one else has. Don't think they do that anymore cause it's too obvious.

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              goferking (he/him)
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              #206

              That would explain a lot and make their constant denials of pushing specific content even funnier

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              • R realitista@lemmus.org

                Where did I say civilians? That's just the pretext they used to silence any words against Russia.

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                goferking (he/him)
                wrote last edited by
                #207

                What do you think people need to be punished implies?

                Asking as have seen way too many say it totally only means the bad ones especially when talking about areas they believe everyone in the area are fair game

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                • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

                  Where did I say civilians?

                  In the linked chain, repeatedly.

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                  goferking (he/him)
                  wrote last edited by
                  #208

                  It's amazing how many don't see people as civilians simply because live in the wrong spot

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                  • H hector@lemmy.today

                    That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we've all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?

                    Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.

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                    edible_funk
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                    #209

                    Irony thy name is Hector.

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                    • edible_funkE edible_funk

                      Irony thy name is Hector.

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                      hector@lemmy.today
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                      #210

                      Speak of the devil. The long palsied arm of [redacted.]

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                        bussygyatt@feddit.org
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                        #211

                        your mom is rampant on this dick

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                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                          Speak of the devil. The long palsied arm of [redacted.]

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                          edible_funk
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                          Is the hexbort here in the room with us right now? There's a fancy saying my people have, if you're smelling dog shit everywhere you go, look under your own shoe.

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                          • edible_funkE edible_funk

                            Is the hexbort here in the room with us right now? There's a fancy saying my people have, if you're smelling dog shit everywhere you go, look under your own shoe.

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                            edible_funk
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                            #213

                            At least I don't use alts to upvote my comments and downvote yours. Like yourself. Sad stuff Hec. Sad stuff.

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                            • edible_funkE edible_funk

                              Is the hexbort here in the room with us right now? There's a fancy saying my people have, if you're smelling dog shit everywhere you go, look under your own shoe.

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                              hector@lemmy.today
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                              Great anecdote comrade. We have sayong, if you do not think good, do not think much. Now if you will excuse me trollsky.

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                              • B bussygyatt@feddit.org

                                your mom is rampant on this dick

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                                konstant@lemmy.world
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                                #215

                                哈!Gottem!

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                                • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

                                  @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

                                  Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

                                  Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

                                  ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

                                  The whole study makes a good read.

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                                  davel@lemmy.ml
                                  wrote last edited by davel@lemmy.ml
                                  #216

                                  We already went over this garbage study with your @Scotty@scribe.disroot.org account^1 and @Sepia@mander.xyz account^2 two days ago and your @Sepia@mander.xyz account two months ago^3.

                                  You’re like a broken record, bot.

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                                  • G goferking (he/him)

                                    What do you think people need to be punished implies?

                                    Asking as have seen way too many say it totally only means the bad ones especially when talking about areas they believe everyone in the area are fair game

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                                    realitista@lemmus.org
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                                    #217

                                    I didn't use those words. Stop putting words in my mouth. If you can't make the case with the words I actually said, you can't make the case.

                                    I mean taking out oil facilities, energy facilities, government facilities, and homes of politicians and military leaders who support the war. But in St. Petersburg and Moscow.

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                                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                      whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works
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                                      lemmy.ml is just like that, maybe you want to look for a new home instance.

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                                      • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                                        There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

                                        There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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                                        whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works
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                                        the PRC is not nearly an alternative to the US empire, its a replacement to it, with different but overlapping trade-offs. what about neither? It's seriously like instagram users fleeing to tiktok, then to upscroll or whichever other corporate platform.

                                        the bad of the US does not make the PRC good. I want change, big changes, but definitely not that kind.

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                          brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                          #220

                                          It’s propaganda, period.

                                          Every top news post in .world is some tabloid outlet, reposting another source, and mods do nothing about it.


                                          Normally, I’m fine with that “old internet” feel of craziness flying around everywhere, but mimicking Reddit’s structure so closely makes things feel less diverse/discoverable, and more like echo chambers blotting out the sun… which is exactly how previous Reddit alternatives died.

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