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Piefed admin settings that allow to enable or disable content filters (they are disabled by default, see body for details)

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  • Blaze (he/him)B This user is from outside of this forum
    Blaze (he/him)B This user is from outside of this forum
    Blaze (he/him)
    wrote last edited by blaze@piefed.zip
    #1

    Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

    --
    Original message:

    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

    A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

    To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

    https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

    That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

    RimuR G H kbalK irelephant [he/him]I 14 Replies Last reply
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    • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

      Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

      I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

      So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

      https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

      --
      Original message:

      https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

      A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

      To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

      https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

      That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

      RimuR This user is from outside of this forum
      RimuR This user is from outside of this forum
      Rimu
      wrote last edited by rimu@piefed.social
      #2

      Those checkboxes have been there since version 0.9. Ages.

      The problem with grabbing small snippets of code is a lot of context is lost. Don't trust anyone who does that. PieFed has 50,000 lines of code so anyone showing you 50 lines is leaving out 99.9% of the picture.

      As I said a month ago, anyone with honest questions about how things work who wants to make PieFed better knows where to find us. You don't have to be a coder, we need translators, designers, documentation writers, bug reporters, community evangelists and all that.

      D G L seawoowaes@lemmy.worldS shatur@lemmy.mlS 5 Replies Last reply
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      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

        Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

        I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

        So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

        https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

        --
        Original message:

        https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

        A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

        To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

        https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

        That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

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        goferking (he/him)
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        Wasn't the biggest concern and question why it didn't do an actual error message and is there any notes to say the performance impact having the 4chan filter on?

        I'd also argue

        To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

        Does absolutely nothing to assure people concerned about it being a thing. Like hiding it doesn't do anything about it being a thing

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        • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

          Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

          I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

          So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

          https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

          --
          Original message:

          https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

          A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

          To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

          https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

          That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

          H This user is from outside of this forum
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          hector@lemmy.today
          wrote last edited by hector@lemmy.today
          #4

          So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

          I was a bit put off with the de federating from some of the other communities, but I had contact with one that I had to admit really needs to be de Federated from. Hexbear, chapotraphouse. Never had s problem with the .ml or whatever.

          But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

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          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

            Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

            I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

            So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

            https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

            --
            Original message:

            https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

            A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

            To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

            https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

            That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

            kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
            kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
            kbal
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            Where's the "4chan" one?

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            • H hector@lemmy.today

              So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

              I was a bit put off with the de federating from some of the other communities, but I had contact with one that I had to admit really needs to be de Federated from. Hexbear, chapotraphouse. Never had s problem with the .ml or whatever.

              But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

              EldritchE This user is from outside of this forum
              EldritchE This user is from outside of this forum
              Eldritch
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              The software kind of scores you on a few metrics. Like the ratio of the things you vote up vs down. I'm sure there are others.

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              • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

                I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                --
                Original message:

                https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

                A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

                To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

                https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

                That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

                irelephant [he/him]I This user is from outside of this forum
                irelephant [he/him]I This user is from outside of this forum
                irelephant [he/him]
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                A lot of people looking at the code were saying these things were hardcoded, even after seeing an if statement which checks if the thing is enabled, which is straight up wrong unless you consider it hard coded because its coded, into the codebase.

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                • H hector@lemmy.today

                  So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

                  I was a bit put off with the de federating from some of the other communities, but I had contact with one that I had to admit really needs to be de Federated from. Hexbear, chapotraphouse. Never had s problem with the .ml or whatever.

                  But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

                  S This user is from outside of this forum
                  S This user is from outside of this forum
                  Skavau
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

                  No, it's just being downvoted negatively contributes to your reputation. Basically heavily downvoted accounts.

                  But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

                  I don't know what you mean here. Who is "some" here?

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                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                    Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

                    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                    --
                    Original message:

                    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

                    A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

                    To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

                    https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

                    That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

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                    eleijeep
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

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                    • S Skavau

                      So what is the lowering reputation part. Are the mods grading your posts and then reducing their visibility?

                      No, it's just being downvoted negatively contributes to your reputation. Basically heavily downvoted accounts.

                      But I noticed some remove the word cunt too, which is a dealbreaker for me.

                      I don't know what you mean here. Who is "some" here?

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                      hector@lemmy.today
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      Some of piefed instances put removed in italics where the word cunt was. Obviously that would only be a deal breaker for the ones that do it.

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                      • EldritchE Eldritch

                        The software kind of scores you on a few metrics. Like the ratio of the things you vote up vs down. I'm sure there are others.

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                        hector@lemmy.today
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        But just for the mods to know if you are a troll to help moderate better, if they remove posts, do they tell you it is removed or like Reddit does it appear like it is still posted but only you can see it?

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                        • EldritchE Eldritch

                          The software kind of scores you on a few metrics. Like the ratio of the things you vote up vs down. I'm sure there are others.

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                          Skavau
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          No, that's it. Reputation (how much you are downvoted) and Attitude (how much you downvote)

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                          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                            Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

                            I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                            So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                            https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                            --
                            Original message:

                            https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

                            A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

                            To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

                            https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

                            That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

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                            T This user is from outside of this forum
                            termaxima@slrpnk.net
                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            Sounds like these settings are very reasonable to have turned on. Although I would be cautious of how the "4chan" filter is implemented, it sounds easy to overdo.

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                            • irelephant [he/him]I irelephant [he/him]

                              A lot of people looking at the code were saying these things were hardcoded, even after seeing an if statement which checks if the thing is enabled, which is straight up wrong unless you consider it hard coded because its coded, into the codebase.

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                              dgdft@lemmy.world
                              wrote last edited by dgdft@lemmy.world
                              #14

                              unless you consider it hard coded because its coded into the codebase

                              That’s precisely the common definition and understanding of the term.

                              E: Sorry, I see what you mean in context now. I thought we were talking about a different piefed feature with a similar anti-4chan label that used a set of hardcoded strings to blacklist comments. Yeah, the tesseract image filter isn’t quite what I’d call hardcoded in and of itself.

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                              • H hector@lemmy.today

                                But just for the mods to know if you are a troll to help moderate better, if they remove posts, do they tell you it is removed or like Reddit does it appear like it is still posted but only you can see it?

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                                Skavau
                                wrote last edited by
                                #15

                                No, it should show as removed on here.

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                                • S Skavau

                                  No, that's it. Reputation (how much you are downvoted) and Attitude (how much you downvote)

                                  EldritchE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Eldritch
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Aaaah, cool yeah. I never looked too deep at it. Just knew that much.

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                                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                    Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

                                    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                                    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                                    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                                    --
                                    Original message:

                                    https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

                                    A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

                                    To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

                                    https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

                                    That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

                                    pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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                                    • H hector@lemmy.today

                                      But just for the mods to know if you are a troll to help moderate better, if they remove posts, do they tell you it is removed or like Reddit does it appear like it is still posted but only you can see it?

                                      EldritchE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      EldritchE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Eldritch
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Oh no. Actually AFAIK its basically public for everyone to see unless disabled. At least attitude is. Yours is currently scored at 86. Meaning you've been 5x as likely to upvote as downvote. I think the rep one is different. Nothing more happening with it ATM than that I think.

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                                      • H hector@lemmy.today

                                        Some of piefed instances put removed in italics where the word cunt was. Obviously that would only be a deal breaker for the ones that do it.

                                        DeceptichumD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Deceptichum
                                        wrote last edited by deceptichum@quokk.au
                                        #19

                                        I only remember Lemmy forcing its hard coded “slur filter” on all instances. It took a lot of backlash to get them to make it optional.

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                                          fujiwood@lemmy.world
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