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Nintendo Switch 2 sales stumble over Christmas

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  • TruscapeT Truscape

    They're already on some of the basic components - but no retail games are playable yet. Fortunately the architectures between the S1 and S2 are quite similar 🙂

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    Also the real code isnt on github anymore since the whole yu zu a while back. Its unfortunate but much safer this time around.

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    • C yeehaw

      Wow crazy. My deck works pretty hard emulating switch 1, but keeps up fine. I imagine emulating switch 2 would not perform well.

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      Yeah the steam deck might be a bridge too far, but I'm sure any modest gaming PC could handle a S2 workload quite easily. If I remembered correctly the deck is CPU bottlenecked for S1 emulation, and that probably will be more pronounced for S2.

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      • mesaM mesa

        Also the real code isnt on github anymore since the whole yu zu a while back. Its unfortunate but much safer this time around.

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        Tbh a self hosted git or gitlab vs github only really matters for takedowns lol. I wonder how far we could go if the scene just paid a random dude in China or Brazil to just run repositories for warez and reverse engineering efforts that are untouchable by the ninjas.

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        • mesaM mesa

          Plus, Nex Playground heads to Europe and Phasmaphobia devs launch publishing arm

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          cybersteel@lemmy.world
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          What a fumble of a product. PS5 all the way.

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          • B b34k@lemmy.world

            This right here. The Switch 2 offers nothing compelling the more casual Nintendo fans, and is a huge purchase comparatively.

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            skunkworkz@lemmy.world
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            #24

            It also offers nothing compelling for the hardcore Nintendo fan unless they just like to collect Nintendo stuff. No new Zelda, Mario, Luigi, Animal Crossing or Smash. I think Nintendo completely misunderstood the market. Mario Kart 8 is the best selling game on the Switch 1. So Nintendo probably thought they should focus on MK for the Switch 2 launch. But MK8 was not the main reason people got the Switch. Like for example they got the Switch for Animal Crossing and then bought Mario Kart as a side game. Mario Kart is universally like by Nintendo fans it’s just not a game that is on top of people’s wishlist. Nintendo fans don’t want to buy a new Nintendo console just for Mario Kart or Donkey Kong.

            Price isn’t the main reason why sales are dropping. I doubt that every Nintendo fan with the means to buy one already has one. Most are just waiting for a game they actually want to play.

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            • Altima NEOA Altima NEO

              It's very expensive and it has no games

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              Barbecue Cowboy
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              #25

              Their roll-out schedule for games is definitely unexpected, not making the new Pokemon a switch 2 exclusive was specifically a real weird move for Nintendo. Even if it wasn't a mainline game, that's usually their 'sell that new console' line.

              Definitely grateful, but I really wonder why Nintendo isn't pushing Switch 2 games more.

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              • mesaM mesa

                Plus, Nex Playground heads to Europe and Phasmaphobia devs launch publishing arm

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                thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                I'm curious how it compares to the other consoles. If all consoles stumble over Christmas, then its not a Switch 2 problem, but a consoles problem.

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                • S skunkworkz@lemmy.world

                  It also offers nothing compelling for the hardcore Nintendo fan unless they just like to collect Nintendo stuff. No new Zelda, Mario, Luigi, Animal Crossing or Smash. I think Nintendo completely misunderstood the market. Mario Kart 8 is the best selling game on the Switch 1. So Nintendo probably thought they should focus on MK for the Switch 2 launch. But MK8 was not the main reason people got the Switch. Like for example they got the Switch for Animal Crossing and then bought Mario Kart as a side game. Mario Kart is universally like by Nintendo fans it’s just not a game that is on top of people’s wishlist. Nintendo fans don’t want to buy a new Nintendo console just for Mario Kart or Donkey Kong.

                  Price isn’t the main reason why sales are dropping. I doubt that every Nintendo fan with the means to buy one already has one. Most are just waiting for a game they actually want to play.

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                  b34k@lemmy.world
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                  It offers the ability to play a lot of your Switch 1 games with much better performance. I’ve been really enjoying TOTK at 4k60. I think that was a draw for a lot of more hardcore Nintendo fans at the systems launch.

                  Also Donkey Kong is the spiritual successor to Mario Odyssey. If you liked that game you should definitely be into the new DK. I think Nintendo did a terrible job of messaging on that point, though.

                  That said, lack of content was the main point of the comment I was replying to. However, I think the huge price increase over Switch is equally as important at this time when people have less and less purchasing power.

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                  • TruscapeT Truscape

                    They're already on some of the basic components - but no retail games are playable yet. Fortunately the architectures between the S1 and S2 are quite similar 🙂

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                    captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                    Oh jeez, I'd heard it would probably take until around EOL

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                    • B b34k@lemmy.world

                      It offers the ability to play a lot of your Switch 1 games with much better performance. I’ve been really enjoying TOTK at 4k60. I think that was a draw for a lot of more hardcore Nintendo fans at the systems launch.

                      Also Donkey Kong is the spiritual successor to Mario Odyssey. If you liked that game you should definitely be into the new DK. I think Nintendo did a terrible job of messaging on that point, though.

                      That said, lack of content was the main point of the comment I was replying to. However, I think the huge price increase over Switch is equally as important at this time when people have less and less purchasing power.

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                      captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                      I think both are huge factors. If I had the money, I probably wouldn't pick it up, but if I had the money to blow and there were a bunch of games yeah I might. I picked up the switch 1 and botw after a Saturday of overtime, and it was a great decision since a year later there was a pandemic, but the splurge money ain't coming and there's no games I'd drop several hundred dollars to play

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                      • Altima NEOA Altima NEO

                        It's very expensive and it has no games

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                        It honestly has a decent lineup. Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza, and Metroid Prime 4 are all solid. I've really been enjoying Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment, the co-op has MUCH better performance than the first game. Plus many other Switch games just have better performance on Switch 2, like Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.

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                          Plus, Nex Playground heads to Europe and Phasmaphobia devs launch publishing arm

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                          Keep in mind, the Switch 2 had arguably the strongest launch sales of any console. Looks like their numbers were front loaded, and everyone already got one before the holidays

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                          • TruscapeT Truscape

                            Tbh a self hosted git or gitlab vs github only really matters for takedowns lol. I wonder how far we could go if the scene just paid a random dude in China or Brazil to just run repositories for warez and reverse engineering efforts that are untouchable by the ninjas.

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                            magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            Pay for hosting with XMR and stop fucking re-using usernames.

                            Releasing software anonymously/pseudonymously isn't that difficult..

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                            • mesaM mesa

                              Plus, Nex Playground heads to Europe and Phasmaphobia devs launch publishing arm

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                              orioler25@lemmy.world
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                              They should have more game sales if they don't want me to use an emulator.

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                              • C captainlezbian@lemmy.world

                                Oh jeez, I'd heard it would probably take until around EOL

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                                This is nintendo we are talking about here, they have enough enemies that most of their consoles get blown open within the first year.

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                                • mesaM mesa

                                  Plus, Nex Playground heads to Europe and Phasmaphobia devs launch publishing arm

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                                  someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  What's the point of paying for overpriced game cartridges when the software isn't onboard and are just a license to download them? The Switch 1 was still tolerable because you got to own the titles you physically purchased and could access locally at any time. There's no long term argument for owning a Switch 2.

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                                    It honestly has a decent lineup. Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza, and Metroid Prime 4 are all solid. I've really been enjoying Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment, the co-op has MUCH better performance than the first game. Plus many other Switch games just have better performance on Switch 2, like Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.

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                                    ms.lane
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                                    I'm not sure I'd call MKW 'solid' - it's a got a solid sound track.

                                    The tracks are solid, but you're effectively not allowed to play them online, you get 2 laps of straight line followed by one single lap of a real track.

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                                    • B Barbecue Cowboy

                                      Their roll-out schedule for games is definitely unexpected, not making the new Pokemon a switch 2 exclusive was specifically a real weird move for Nintendo. Even if it wasn't a mainline game, that's usually their 'sell that new console' line.

                                      Definitely grateful, but I really wonder why Nintendo isn't pushing Switch 2 games more.

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                                      VindictiveJudge
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                                      Nintendo is consistently terrible about not having solid launch titles.

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                                      • VindictiveJudgeV VindictiveJudge

                                        Nintendo is consistently terrible about not having solid launch titles.

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                                        gathorall@lemmy.world
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                                        Which is weird to be sure with all their exclusive studios.

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                                        • TruscapeT Truscape

                                          Truly, the PS5 of the new generation.

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                                          gathorall@lemmy.world
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                                          Except the people who wanted to buy it on release didn't have to wait for 3 years if unlucky.

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