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Do we need more users ?

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  • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world

    I agree with everything that you've said. I would also add:

    Find your nearest non-political non-tech hobby community and start posting things people actually want to see

    Because if we're going to cast the same net reddit does, people with a more varied set of interests need to come here. Can't be all linux, politics, and news. We're going to need people who like baking. We're going to need sports fans. We're going to need music.

    I could type new communities we need to be active all day. Humans are surprisingly a diverse set of creatures. You have one set of interests, I have another. Different set of interests. And both are totally valid.

    The thing people here don't seem to grasp is that OTHER interests and OTHER people using the fediverse isn't a bad thing. If a bunch of boomers come here, and make their own communities to talk about Taylor Swift, and whatever else they talk about on facebook. That's good that it would be here! Not bad!

    They could talk about gardening, and model trains, and whatever else. It wouldn't appeal to you, and thats ok.

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    melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Plus the other generations as well!

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    • 1984@lemmy.today1 1984@lemmy.today

      I dont think more users is very important. Its not going to make Lemmy change from mostly memes anyway.

      The mentality of the largest Lemmy instances is still to moderate away opinions they dont agree with, so this place is never going to be good for any discussions where people disagree strongly.

      Most users downvote what they dont agree with. Its a circle jerk echo chamber where we all agree or get downvoted.

      But we can all enjoy memes together. ๐Ÿ™‚ Its kind of nice. Lemmy is chill and easy. Even kid friendly.

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      melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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      If I get about 50% likes and 50% dislikes on a comment then I feel my comment was closest to the truth. This tells me that lemmy is not an echo chamber.

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      • K kekzkrieger@feddit.org

        Quality over quantity

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        bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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        Lemmy has neither.

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        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

          the question is whether the upvotes of that post makes over half of the total upvotes on all posts on that instance, and that i seriously doubt

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          cron@feddit.org
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          No? Did I claim this?

          The most upvoted post has ~20 upvotes, but there are a lot of posts with 1-5 upvotes.

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          • we is doomed!H we is doomed!

            Just my two cents, but there's just no reason for people to come here when it's 80+% political shit a

            As a contra point, I'm glad that its like this, a lack of politcal debate is toxic to democracy and that way be dragons.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

            In a political context, the phrase means to generate public approval, not by excellence in public service or public policy, but by diversion, distraction, or by satisfying the most immediate or base requirements of a populace, by offering a palliative: for example food (bread) or entertainment (circuses). Juvenal originally used it to decry the "selfishness" of common people and their neglect of wider concerns. The phrase implies a population's erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority.

            That doesn't mean there shouldn't be more other stuff as well though.

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            bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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            Lemmy doesnโ€™t have quality debates on politics either. The mods in the relevant communities swing the ban hammer liberally against everyone not following their opinion. Mainstream democrat talking points get banned as fascist. Antisemitic stuff is widespread as well.

            You mostly get woke to extreme left echo chambers going on.

            !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com is a good place to see this moderation in action.

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            • B bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

              Lemmy has neither.

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              kekzkrieger@feddit.org
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              #141

              I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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              • S supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz

                I agree, I think something that has been lost in conversation about progressive politics and leftism more broadly (in US-centric circles at least) is that as much as people on the left disagree about absolutely everything, in general (with plenty of exceptions) politically left movements and cultural spaces tend to be far better at identifying common values and truths that are universal and holding individuals and communities to those values and truths.

                Whereas on the right the endless stumping about valuing freedom of speech turns out to mostly be a mirage when it comes to innocent, vulnerable people being physically murdered on camera by the state, on the left institutions and individuals are much more often held to a standard of values and called out if they fail to reach it.

                When people enter a space where progressive and left voices haven't been systematically silenced and it is a new experience for them, they often react negatively and feel rebuked. I know some of my first encounters when I was younger with actually left spaces initially made me bristle with how willing they were to say no to things that weren't healthy, to challenge oppressive structures even if they were so normalized they were invisible to me... it can be an uncomfortable process but ultimately more often than not leftist spaces actually try to do it and it that is a good thing.

                I entirely agree with people having agency to decide when politics comes up on their feed and when it doesn't, but the idea that we are all just being a bit too negative and obsessed with the news and we should cheer up is honestly insulting in 2026 given, you know gestures at everything. Everything is political, if you have the capacity to complain about being subject to "too much politics" be thankful for your capacity to experience that state of choice.

                Also, and this is on a personal note, talking about politics doesn't make me depressed, it helps me feel less depressed and anxious because I know other people feel similarly and the more educated I am about what is happening the less scared and confused I feel.

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                bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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                Leftist spaces have changed a lot over the last two decades. Not for the better.

                Cancel Culture Culture is real and extremely aggressive among the left.

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                • K kekzkrieger@feddit.org

                  I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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                  bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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                  What communities can you recommend?

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                  • K kekzkrieger@feddit.org

                    I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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                    knexcar@lemmy.world
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                    #144

                    All I see is about 60% general news/politics (pointing out the obvious, Trump bad, ICE bad, America is dumb, people should be rioting in the streets from all the bad things, capitalism bad), 30% Linux/FOSS circlejerk (donโ€™t use Chrome, use Firefox, donโ€™t use Firefox, use Librewolf, donโ€™t use AI, Linux always works out of the box and is so easy to use even a grandparent can do it, it also has an App Store, oh you had an error with the App Store just start typing black magic into the command line, and donโ€™t use snaps, I use arch BTW), and 10% low effort memes (Greentext, ADHD memes, usually generic and low effort). None of these are particularly plentiful โ€” except for the fact that theyโ€™re the ONLY content seemingly available โ€” and none are high quality either. I donโ€™t ever see any Cities: Skylines content for instance, let alone Workers and Resources. Have to go to Reddit for that.

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                      Let's keep it just under critical mass for Eternal September to not happen.

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                      knexcar@lemmy.world
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                      That was over 30 years ago, longer than Iโ€™ve been alive. I just want niche communities to subscribe to (Cities: Skylines, model trains, Madison WI) instead of the constant barrage of generic politics, Linux obsession, and low effort memes.

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                      • D damage@feddit.it

                        Linux is too mainstream nowadays, I'm moving to FreeBSD

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                        fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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                        That's a little to popular for me. I'm starting a JavaOS revolution.

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                        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                          how comes i never see it? did i block it accidentally?

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                          tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                          you're on a different instance

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                          • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                            Try PieFed. The reason you keep seeing furry content on Lemmy is that you are forced into browsing "All" in order to see some new content, but then you don't like some of the new content that you see.

                            On PieFed with categories of communities (instance-defined Topic areas and user Feeds that are user-customizeable and shareable) you can have your cake (have a tight Subscribed feed, e.g. without being subscribed to any politics communities if you wanted) but then also eat it too (news & politics content is but a click away, or movies & TV).

                            Combining together comments across all cross-posts also helps a lot with community discovery. I haven't searched by All in a long time, unless I just felt nostalgic and wanted to, but there is no longer any need with this new model.

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                            tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                            piefed is full of memes. i hate it.

                            i also am annoyed at having it constantly shrilled at me. i am thinking about blocking it.

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                            • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                              piefed is full of memes. i hate it.

                              i also am annoyed at having it constantly shrilled at me. i am thinking about blocking it.

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                              Skavau
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                              Without trying to shill it to you, it has the same content you would see on lemmy.world. It's no more memey than lemmy.world.

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                              • S Skavau

                                Without trying to shill it to you, it has the same content you would see on lemmy.world. It's no more memey than lemmy.world.

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                                tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                                that isn't true. anytime i have gone there it's WAY more memey. it looks more like mastrodon/twitter than reddit.

                                I am not interesting in meme platforms.

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                                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  Efi System Partition 32 bit?

                                  i remember writing code for the ESP boot system

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                                  yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                                  I'm not sure what it stands for, but it's essentially a very powerful Arduino with wireless networking capabilities. I think the "e" is for espresif who manufactures it. I could be wrong though. Irregardless, look into it! Very cool little chip!

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                                  • K knexcar@lemmy.world

                                    That was over 30 years ago, longer than Iโ€™ve been alive. I just want niche communities to subscribe to (Cities: Skylines, model trains, Madison WI) instead of the constant barrage of generic politics, Linux obsession, and low effort memes.

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                                    That was over 30 years ago

                                    It was over 30 years ago that the term was coined. As a concept, it happens all the time. It happened with Reddit multiple times.

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                                    • lerbaB lerba

                                      The amount of furry / anime content on the front page might be putting off some new users

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                                      I am literally on a furry instance, I subscrube to most furry and a lot of anime comms, and I don't block NSFW content; I rarely if ever see furry or anime content on the front page and yet I see this said a lot on Lemmy.

                                      Where is it? Where is all this furry content? I specifically requested it and it doesn't exist. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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                                      • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                                        that isn't true. anytime i have gone there it's WAY more memey. it looks more like mastrodon/twitter than reddit.

                                        I am not interesting in meme platforms.

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                                        Skavau
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                                        This makes no sense. How you interpret the design doesn't come into it. You know piefed.social (the largest instance) shows the same communities as lemmy.world, right? Show me a meme community that apparently only exists as viewed from piefed.social.

                                        You might be seeing it via card mode rather than compact mode.

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                                          That was over 30 years ago

                                          It was over 30 years ago that the term was coined. As a concept, it happens all the time. It happened with Reddit multiple times.

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                                          knexcar@lemmy.world
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                                          #155

                                          Yeah, itโ€™s happened multiple times that a website has reached critical mass such that normal people start joining and posting a variety of interests, rather than just non-stop posting about their super duper hardened non-fingerprintable self hosted LibreWolf instance with VPN to prevent those dirty big tech companies from stealing their precious browsing history data. No one will ever know how much they prefer AMD cards over NVIDIA and that they use Arch BTW! And general news and politics (Capitalism Badโ„ข).

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