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"Not A Single Pixel" Of The New Ecco Game Will Be Generated By AI, Insists Series Creator

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  • K keenflame@feddit.nu

    It's about saving the planet, I think

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    fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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    #62

    The developer – whose credits also include Chakan: The Forever Man, Kolibri, Mr. Bones and Three Dirty Dwarves – has previously been quite vocal about his support of tech such as Web3, AI and LLMs (Large Language Models) in video games.

    His LinkedIn profile states that one of his "near-term" goals is to "create an AI system to generate ergodic game content." His current company, PLAYCHEMY, lists "gamification of AI models, Stable Diffusion, LLM, and NeRF" as some of its primary areas of interest.

    Save the planet with ECCO, to kill it everywhere else? It's just marketing (it's working though). Wait for the reviews instead.

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    • fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.comF fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com

      The developer – whose credits also include Chakan: The Forever Man, Kolibri, Mr. Bones and Three Dirty Dwarves – has previously been quite vocal about his support of tech such as Web3, AI and LLMs (Large Language Models) in video games.

      His LinkedIn profile states that one of his "near-term" goals is to "create an AI system to generate ergodic game content." His current company, PLAYCHEMY, lists "gamification of AI models, Stable Diffusion, LLM, and NeRF" as some of its primary areas of interest.

      Save the planet with ECCO, to kill it everywhere else? It's just marketing (it's working though). Wait for the reviews instead.

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      keenflame@feddit.nu
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      Instead of, what?

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      • K keenflame@feddit.nu

        Instead of, what?

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        fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
        wrote last edited by fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
        #64

        Listening to marketeers do their thing. Have we not learned our lesson yet. They'll say whatever it is to sell their game.

        Let them make it. Let them release it. Find out if it's something you want to buy. Buy it. "It's about saving the planet" why would anyone volunteer to carry water for them?

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        • Joanie ParkerL Joanie Parker

          That's excellent. And as these mega corps watch consumers favor those products. Maybe, just maybe they'll fucking implode. That's just a fantasy I know.

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          Unfortunately they won't. They are earning tons of money.

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            Unfortunately they won't. They are earning tons of money.

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            Joanie Parker
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            Earning burning. Fixed it for you.

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            • fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.comF fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com

              Listening to marketeers do their thing. Have we not learned our lesson yet. They'll say whatever it is to sell their game.

              Let them make it. Let them release it. Find out if it's something you want to buy. Buy it. "It's about saving the planet" why would anyone volunteer to carry water for them?

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              keenflame@feddit.nu
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              I mean I didn't buy into hype even when I got the gameboy pocket camera, never have and also never pre-ordered anything. except once, I realise I pre-ordered wow to get it at launch day

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              • C cocodapuf@lemmy.world

                Ok sure, but how much of the game will actually be generated by dolphins?

                This will probably be just another example of HUMAN appropriation when plenty of dolphin developers are struggling to even find work in this industry. Maybe when dolphins are literally the subject matter of the game we could consider inclusivity in its development?

                #dolphin_life #Phins_In_Gaming #NotMyEcco

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                ptu@sopuli.xyz
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                In the original game I’m sure you had to be a dolphin to beat the first level

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                • I itkovian@lemmy.world

                  I knew that "No AI used" is going to become a huge selling point for many products. And I think this is just the start.

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                  blaiz0r@lemmy.ml
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                  The reality is software engineers will use AI or will find themselves out of work as they won't have the skills to get hired.

                  Customers may never know if AI is used as a tool in game creation but it will always be part of any software and development studio.

                  Using AI for music or design assets is totally different from using it for the code base and blanket statements don't improve the situation

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                  • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                    I mean I didn't buy into hype even when I got the gameboy pocket camera, never have and also never pre-ordered anything. except once, I realise I pre-ordered wow to get it at launch day

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                    fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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                    #70

                    "It's about saving the planet" - KeenFlame.

                    It isn't about saving the planet. They never said it was about saving the planet, they don't think GenAI is destroying the planet (see excerpt) The saving the planet thing came all from you.

                    It's about marketing, and it's working, here you are saying ecco the dolphin is saving the planet. Unless you were telling me the plot of ecco, and yeah I suppose, but that's a bit out of context. Haven't bought into the hype? What more hype is there than saving the planet.

                    What's the most over hyped game you know? Where were people saying it was saving the planet? Great graphics, incredible gameplay, get to watch an acorn grow into a tree in real time... But saving the planet?!

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                    • I inferno@lemmy.ml

                      Annunziata has been talking about a new game for decades. I'm sceptical he'll produce a single pixel tout court.

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                      lvdwsn@lemmy.world
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                      I just want him to bring back SmallBall Baseball man

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                      • SundrayS Sundray

                        Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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                        bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                        A new Ecco game?? Yess. Love the genesis versions

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                        • I itkovian@lemmy.world

                          I knew that "No AI used" is going to become a huge selling point for many products. And I think this is just the start.

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                          bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                          I made a post about thia exact thing a couple of weeks ago! I will give my money to people not using ai bullshit, and if theyre liars, they wont see a cent from me again. People need to stand up and have some damn principles about this.

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                          • NoxyN Noxy

                            I'm so fucking pumped for new Ecco games. I loved the original on Genesis and it's about damn time we get some fresh stuff in the series.

                            Even better with this statement

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                            bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                            Genesis music is of its own genre. So good

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                            • SundrayS Sundray

                              Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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                              Destide
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                              Thank goodness I was worried the French fever dream of ECCO would be ruined

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                              • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

                                Genesis music is of its own genre. So good

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                                Noxy
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                                It really, really does.

                                This song (All Good Times, by MelonadeM) isn't from a game, rather it's one of the demo songs included with Furnace, a chiptune tracker. And it goes so fucking hard:

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfSCvvqmXg

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                                  Noxy
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                                  YESS. I'm super eager to hear the sounds they come up with here.

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                                  • I itkovian@lemmy.world

                                    I knew that "No AI used" is going to become a huge selling point for many products. And I think this is just the start.

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                                    whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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                                    And what's funny is we all know they're going to use it somewhere.

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                                    • fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.comF fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com

                                      "It's about saving the planet" - KeenFlame.

                                      It isn't about saving the planet. They never said it was about saving the planet, they don't think GenAI is destroying the planet (see excerpt) The saving the planet thing came all from you.

                                      It's about marketing, and it's working, here you are saying ecco the dolphin is saving the planet. Unless you were telling me the plot of ecco, and yeah I suppose, but that's a bit out of context. Haven't bought into the hype? What more hype is there than saving the planet.

                                      What's the most over hyped game you know? Where were people saying it was saving the planet? Great graphics, incredible gameplay, get to watch an acorn grow into a tree in real time... But saving the planet?!

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                                      keenflame@feddit.nu
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                                      I think you just don't get the joke..?

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                                      • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                                        I think you just don't get the joke..?

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                                        fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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                                        Probably not. Mind explaining it?

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                                        • SundrayS Sundray

                                          Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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                                          socsa
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                                          Ok, that was always allowed!

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