What was your biggest movie let-down/disappointment ever?
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Unpopular opinion for the cinephiles, it would be Stalker by Andrey Tarkovsky for me. It's overrated and it's just a bunch of guys talking. I wouldn't have mind the philosophical talks if it weren't for the pointless long shots that spanned for minutes. And it is not even clear if there is actually supernatural, or scifi or none of those.
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Basically? It was a kids movie. Characters were one-dimensional and not very likeable to teenage me. Exposition by dialogue, and not great dialogue. Slapstick bits that really didn't land (Jar Jar). Etc, etc.
Even as a child when I first saw Phantom Menace, I thought it was off. Maybe I would have rated the film lower if it weren't for the fun pod racing segment and the fight with Darth Maul. I think the Star War prequel trilogy excel more on the editing and choreography of action scenes than actual story telling and drama.
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And the originals weren't kids movies?
I guess the massive amount of Star Wars toys I had as a child somehow led me to believe otherwise.
Original trilogy are also kids movies, fight me.
The Empire Strikes Back is definitely not a kid's movie in my opinion. The Return of the Jedi is more kiddie because of Ewoks.
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It's been a while, but that would be Sin City 2 for me. Back then I was young and naive, and didn't know that 99% of sequels are soulless cashgrabs. And I was really hyped, I loved the first one and still think of it as the best comic book adaptation I've ever seen. You could see the love in every frame.
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My biggest problem with
thisthe sequels is that Luke's character just got completely butchered.You really want me to believe that one of my childhood heros, who against all odds, against his mentors judgement, decided to go all in on the "There's good in my father, I'll save him or die."-train would grow old and wants to kill his own fucking nephew because he's seeing something evil in him?
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There are always exceptions. Andromeda Strain was an excellent book.
You know I do recall that one not being bad. Rising son was maybe a little better book wise to.
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Try reading "The Great Train Robbery."
He wrote it as if it were a factual reconstruction of an actual crime. Long passages on things like rat baiting, penny hangs, tipping servants, and other Victoriana
I have not read that but I don't read much now so I doubt I will get around to it. Top of my list is reading the wheel of time that jordan did not write to finish off the series.
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Any links to movie or group
I'm more of a usenet sailor, but the Pirate Bay seems to have "The Hobbit M4 Book Edit" available. It seems to be the most liked edit, although it is rather long, there are shorter ones available (see the linked post).
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World War Z.
i was do hyped. and it single handedly ended the zombie movie genre that was popular at the time
I kinda liked it, not great by any means, maybe 3/5. But i liked the book way better
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Here's the way I look at it.
A fictional story should follow its own rules. Let's take "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." The idea that someone would let himself be hung, trusting the other guy to be able to make that incredible shot over and over and never miss, is nonsensical. But we in the audience accept that premise for the sake of the story. We'd be disappointed if, halfway through the movie, an orchestra appears in the middle of the desert and they do a big musical number.
"Sky Captain" was ridiculous because of the way the story kept shifting and the rules kept changing.
I admit that I saw Sky Captain once, many many years ago, so I'm not going to be able to back this up with too many specific citations, but you've also not said specifically what rule they set up and fail to follow, so we're even.
It's a pastiche of pulp fiction concepts from the 30s-50s. Giant robots, airships, Nazi scientists, Shangri-La, dinosaurs, android assassins, the works. The whole thing is like a loving homage to Doc Savage's greatest hits. I don't see how any of that "breaks rules".
Like I said, I won't dispute your overall finding of the film being, "meh". I watched it once 20 years ago and haven't gone back since, so I'm not exactly leaping up to defend it's execution, but I also think "the rules kept changing" is an empty critique, as it stands currently.
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Fantastic four 2015, great first half and Phillip Glass soundtrack! But studio/publisher meddling destroyed the second half
I saw the Phantom menace on release, that was a huge let down
I actually agree that the first half was great and there were some solid bones and performances but I don’t think there was a break movie just below the surface of FF. Nothing we have seen or heard from that third act suggests Trank’s cut would have been demonstrably better.
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I admit that I saw Sky Captain once, many many years ago, so I'm not going to be able to back this up with too many specific citations, but you've also not said specifically what rule they set up and fail to follow, so we're even.
It's a pastiche of pulp fiction concepts from the 30s-50s. Giant robots, airships, Nazi scientists, Shangri-La, dinosaurs, android assassins, the works. The whole thing is like a loving homage to Doc Savage's greatest hits. I don't see how any of that "breaks rules".
Like I said, I won't dispute your overall finding of the film being, "meh". I watched it once 20 years ago and haven't gone back since, so I'm not exactly leaping up to defend it's execution, but I also think "the rules kept changing" is an empty critique, as it stands currently.
I'm not going to argue about a movie neither one of us has seen in over 20 years.
Have fun.
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I'm more of a usenet sailor, but the Pirate Bay seems to have "The Hobbit M4 Book Edit" available. It seems to be the most liked edit, although it is rather long, there are shorter ones available (see the linked post).
Awesome, I haven't heard of this before! I'm trying to download it via torrent from their website but it seems like it has zero seeds though
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It's been a while, but that would be Sin City 2 for me. Back then I was young and naive, and didn't know that 99% of sequels are soulless cashgrabs. And I was really hyped, I loved the first one and still think of it as the best comic book adaptation I've ever seen. You could see the love in every frame.
But Eva Green tho.
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Awesome, I haven't heard of this before! I'm trying to download it via torrent from their website but it seems like it has zero seeds though
There's a direct download for the m4 version on the internet archive.
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The problem with the Hobbit movies was that they were too much like the Lord of the Rings movies.
Maybe in the sense that they were aiming to be a long epic similar to the LotR, rather than the fun adventure the book that the Hobbit book is.
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Omg yes. The Hobbit movies were so terrible.
Imo worse than just them being bad is the gap between their quality and the potential of what could have been.
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Imo worse than just them being bad is the gap between their quality and the potential of what could have been.
Absolutely and factor who made them.
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I'm not going to argue about a movie neither one of us has seen in over 20 years.
Have fun.
You're under no obligation to continue the discussion, sure, but it seems disingenuous to me to open a thread saying "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is a bad movie because it fails to follow it's own internal logic". Then, upon having that assertion challenged, you jump to, "I'm not gonna argue about this." Like, why comment at all if you're not interested in discussing, and yes, maybe even defending, your take? Regardless, if that's not what you're here to do, have a good day.
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There's a direct download for the m4 version on the internet archive.
aha! tysm!
Edit: Also found the subs and other related files
