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Ideas for a better Lemmy experience

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    kingofras@lemmy.world
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    #1

    Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

    New features :

    • auto closing/suspending stale communities
      • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
    • staggered new account permissions:
      • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
    • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
      • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

    Curious what people think about this?

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    • K kingofras@lemmy.world

      Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

      New features :

      • auto closing/suspending stale communities
        • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
      • staggered new account permissions:
        • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
      • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
        • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

      Curious what people think about this?

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      solrize@lemmy.ml
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      #2

      Kind of useless probably, at least in the present state of Lemmy. We're not particularly overrun by new users. That would be a good problem to have.

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      • K kingofras@lemmy.world

        Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

        New features :

        • auto closing/suspending stale communities
          • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
        • staggered new account permissions:
          • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
        • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
          • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

        Curious what people think about this?

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        mrdown@lemmy.world
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        I prefer trying to revive dead communities. See if anybody want to be in charge of onr of those dead communities

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        • K kingofras@lemmy.world

          Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

          New features :

          • auto closing/suspending stale communities
            • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
          • staggered new account permissions:
            • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
          • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
            • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

          Curious what people think about this?

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          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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          #4

          I don't think we should be limiting new users from commenting or posting. And 7 days is a long time.

          Auto closing communities would be really annoying, but I think dimming them or marking them in the lists/search results would be nice. I filed an issue on this already https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/3174 maybe if more people think this is a good idea they could leave comments there

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          • K kingofras@lemmy.world

            Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

            New features :

            • auto closing/suspending stale communities
              • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
            • staggered new account permissions:
              • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
            • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
              • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

            Curious what people think about this?

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            Skavau
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            #5

            auto closing/suspending stale communities

            Define "stale" commmunities.

            wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

            This would not help interacting levels at all.

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            • S solrize@lemmy.ml

              Kind of useless probably, at least in the present state of Lemmy. We're not particularly overrun by new users. That would be a good problem to have.

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              Sundray
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              #6

              There's been a huge wave of people (bots?) creating new accounts, posting a bunch, and then deleting their accounts after a couple of days. See: https://lemmy.world/post/39948262

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              • SundrayS Sundray

                There's been a huge wave of people (bots?) creating new accounts, posting a bunch, and then deleting their accounts after a couple of days. See: https://lemmy.world/post/39948262

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                solrize@lemmy.ml
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                #7

                Ehh still seems useless, they then just have to age the accounts before posting. One thing I'd want to know is of those posts are in topic areas that anyone would want to influence surreptitiously.

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                • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                  Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                  New features :

                  • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                    • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                  • staggered new account permissions:
                    • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                  • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                    • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                  Curious what people think about this?

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                  riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
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                  What is the point of "staggered new account permissions"?

                  At most we should be Autofolding/hiding unpopular comments.

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                  • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                    I don't think we should be limiting new users from commenting or posting. And 7 days is a long time.

                    Auto closing communities would be really annoying, but I think dimming them or marking them in the lists/search results would be nice. I filed an issue on this already https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/3174 maybe if more people think this is a good idea they could leave comments there

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                    solarpunker@slrpnk.net
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                    Could limiting new users maybe help against bot spamming?

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                    • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                      Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                      New features :

                      • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                        • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                      • staggered new account permissions:
                        • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                      • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                        • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                      Curious what people think about this?

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                      opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                      #10

                      I could go for closing stale communities. There are some that have been vacant/inactive for years now. I mean communities with zero posts or comments.

                      If somebody wanted to takeover or revive one of them, they would've done it by now.

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                      • S solarpunker@slrpnk.net

                        Could limiting new users maybe help against bot spamming?

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                        Skavau
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                        #11

                        Yes, but it would tank the user retention rate.

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                        • S solarpunker@slrpnk.net

                          Could limiting new users maybe help against bot spamming?

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                          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                          #12

                          Maybe slightly? But not worth turning away potential new users. We need more users.

                          Bots and spammers would just create accounts in advance and let them sit to get to the right age, it'd be the same.

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                          • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                            I could go for closing stale communities. There are some that have been vacant/inactive for years now. I mean communities with zero posts or comments.

                            If somebody wanted to takeover or revive one of them, they would've done it by now.

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                            zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            A new user might come along and post something that revives interest in it. What Lemmy needs are more users to increase activity.

                            New users are unlikely to be interested in immediately committing to creating and/or maintaining a community with regular posts and moderation over a long period of time, but might be willing to contribute to existing communities. Better to have dormant communities that can be revived than to have a lack of topics for new users to contribute to.

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                            • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                              Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                              New features :

                              • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                                • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                              • staggered new account permissions:
                                • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                              • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                                • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                              Curious what people think about this?

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                              lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              • Bad. Don't even need to comment on this one.
                              • Non-conductive: spammers can just wait it out, whereas real users get demotivated.
                              • Dangerous: can be used for remotely censoring queer stuff.
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                              • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                                Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                                New features :

                                • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                                  • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                                • staggered new account permissions:
                                  • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                                • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                                  • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                                Curious what people think about this?

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                                lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
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                                auto closing/suspending stale communities
                                stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts

                                No. I've seen several times people ask the admins if they could take over a community. And it happened. Thus reviving dead communities.

                                staggered new account permissions:
                                wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

                                Why?

                                allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.

                                This one I like.

                                Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.

                                That's not how it should be done though. The same menu that you pull out that lets you report things to a mod, instead of reporting to mod, it should let you report as NSFW. If a mod approves the request, it then becomes labeled as NSFW.

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                                • S Skavau

                                  auto closing/suspending stale communities

                                  Define "stale" commmunities.

                                  wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.

                                  This would not help interacting levels at all.

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                                  kingofras@lemmy.world
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                                  My proposed definition of stale is in the OP

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                                  • R riotingpacifist@lemmy.world

                                    What is the point of "staggered new account permissions"?

                                    At most we should be Autofolding/hiding unpopular comments.

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                                    kingofras@lemmy.world
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                                    This stuff? https://lemmy.world/u/FYLD_Proofchain

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                                    • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                                      This stuff? https://lemmy.world/u/FYLD_Proofchain

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                                      riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
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                                      I think the issue is putting barriers to legit users even if it prevents some spam will keep us small.

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                                      • K kingofras@lemmy.world

                                        Perhaps this is already implemented on one of the Lemmy variants?

                                        New features :

                                        • auto closing/suspending stale communities
                                          • stale could be defined as unanswered mod reports, no mod activity (no post, comment, login in x time period), no posts
                                        • staggered new account permissions:
                                          • wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
                                        • allow community users to flag posts or comments as NSFW.
                                          • Voting changes from up, down to up, down or NSFW.)

                                        Curious what people think about this?

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                                        julian
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                                        I'll give some insight from NodeBB.

                                        Adding in delays (x days until first post, y hours until upvote, etc.) do nothing to curb spam.

                                        If your spam is manual, they will discover the waiting period, update their rulebook, and go to town when the waiting period is over.

                                        If the spam is automated, it will work until the spammer admin discovers the waiting period, updates the script, and has the bots resume going to town when the waiting period is over.

                                        At the same time it severly hampers usability at its most crucial (the first post).

                                        The only thing that works to curb spam is a post queue with manual review... or locking the ability to post links behind reputation.

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                                        • R riotingpacifist@lemmy.world

                                          I think the issue is putting barriers to legit users even if it prevents some spam will keep us small.

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                                          kingofras@lemmy.world
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                                          What’s keeping us small (no proof just opinion) is the petty inter instance infighting and the lack of accessible fediverse education for social media adhd minds.

                                          Also we’re growing, but given the times we’re in and how massive a piece of shit u/spez is, one would hope it grew faster.

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