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Highguard | Official Launch Showcase

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

    Concord didn't have any advertising because the data was showing them beyond a shadow of a doubt that it would have been throwing good money after bad.

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    Goodeye8
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    So they knew it was going to be a complete failure before they even released it?

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      So they knew it was going to be a complete failure before they even released it?

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      ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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      But after they revealed it? Yes. From their reveal to their beta test, it seemed clear the game was not going to find an audience; definitely not enough to recoup $200M-$400M.

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

        But after they revealed it? Yes. From their reveal to their beta test, it seemed clear the game was not going to find an audience; definitely not enough to recoup $200M-$400M.

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        Goodeye8
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        If it seemed so clear I'm sure you'll have no problem backing that up with some actual sources.

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          If it seemed so clear I'm sure you'll have no problem backing that up with some actual sources.

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          ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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          You can dig through This Week in Video Games episodes on SkillUp's YouTube channel from back just before the game released. That's where I got it from. Live service games are looking for the hockey stick shaped graph in order to take off, and it was quite clear that even when the game was free, it didn't have the juice to make that happen. And even the lower bound of $200M is a tough bar to clear, but Concord was funded at a time when borrowing money was cheap and every asshole with a war chest thought they'd make a fortune by following the same formula; the problem with that is that everyone else thought they could do that too. And that's not even to say Concord was the worst game ever made or anything. It was just a game that cost way more to make than it was ever, ever going to make back.

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          • simpleS simple

            looks too much like apex legends imo

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            Hal-5700X
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            It's a generic shooter, does nothing new or different.

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            • G Goodeye8

              I'm 100% of the opinion that the main reason Concord failed is because it didn't get any advertising. The first time I heard about Concord was the news that it completely flopped at launch and I wasn't the only one. When that's the first thing people hear about the game they're not even going to bother to get interested in what the game is about. To this day I don't even know if Concord had any redeeming qualities because I haven't even seen any gameplay outside of 5 second no-context clips. Even bad games receive better numbers than Concord.

              Highguard is going to have more staying power than Concord solely on the fact that it actually had an advertising budget.

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              righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
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              What advertising though? They didn't have to pay for The Game Awards spot, Jeff just gave it to them for free. I haven't seen any commercials or ads outside of that either. I think Concord had more advertising than Highguard, with Concord getting multiple devlogs and previews across a few Sony hosted events, IIRC.

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              • simpleS simple

                looks too much like apex legends imo

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                thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                Does anyone know if it is working on Linux (or Steam Deck)?

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                • simpleS simple

                  looks too much like apex legends imo

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                  talkingflower@lemmy.world
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                  People are complaining about the map size and its 3 vs 3 format, mostly negative on steam, not sure if they are going to come back from this.

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                  • R righthandofikaros@lemmy.world

                    What advertising though? They didn't have to pay for The Game Awards spot, Jeff just gave it to them for free. I haven't seen any commercials or ads outside of that either. I think Concord had more advertising than Highguard, with Concord getting multiple devlogs and previews across a few Sony hosted events, IIRC.

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                    Goodeye8
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                    My bad, I meant marketing strategy not advertising budget. Concord definitely had a bigger budget considering they got a Secret level episode deal before the game was even launched. But the budget and bits of marketing don't matter when it doesn't gain any traction and whatever their strategy was it gained no traction what so ever.

                    As for highguard, they did pay for the TGA spot. They didn't pay extra to be the premier trailer, that Jeff gave them for free. And they did had a weird strategy of going completely radio silent after TGA. But despite that people at launch knew this game existed and has already beaten Concord numbers (at least on Steam) by hundredfold and I don't think that's solely because this game is F2P.

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                    • simpleS simple

                      looks too much like apex legends imo

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                      aksdb@lemmy.world
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                      I don’t get what makes this game so special that Geoff Keighley hyped it so much. That this thing was the big surprise that ended the game awards show was completely underwhelming. Out of the show, Highguard was the most generic game presentation. There was absolutely nothing about this game that seemed new or even interesting. Just the next hero shooter with comic look.

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                        Does anyone know if it is working on Linux (or Steam Deck)?

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                        ok_imagination@lemmy.world
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                        I doubt it with the kernel layer anti cheat but haven't confirmed

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                        • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlT thingsiplay@lemmy.ml

                          Does anyone know if it is working on Linux (or Steam Deck)?

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                          ormith@lemmy.world
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                          Nope, blocked by the anti-cheat.

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                          • simpleS simple

                            looks too much like apex legends imo

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                            zecg@lemmy.world
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                            Requires both Secure Boot & TPM 2.0

                            Fuck right off

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                              Nope, blocked by the anti-cheat.

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                              korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                              Looks like nothing of value was lost, I am kinda curious why are so many people playing it with how terrible it is rated

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                                I don’t get what makes this game so special that Geoff Keighley hyped it so much. That this thing was the big surprise that ended the game awards show was completely underwhelming. Out of the show, Highguard was the most generic game presentation. There was absolutely nothing about this game that seemed new or even interesting. Just the next hero shooter with comic look.

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                                katana314@lemmy.world
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                                Tbf, I don't think Apex Legends was completely new either. It refined and combined a lot of good ideas in other games into a battle royale. I think they're trying to do that with this type of hero shooter vibe, having taken some ideas from Rainbow 6 Siege and a few other games. Doesn't seem to have worked as well this time.

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