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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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    murmelade
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    I love these posts, they're always a treasure trove of accounts to block.

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    • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Don't forget USAian propaganda. By far the most prevalent under that regime.

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      KryptonBlur
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      I tend to find Lemmy to be pretty good at being critical of the US

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        leftists* are rampant on the fediverse

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        KryptonBlur
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        #170

        Not all leftists are supportive of China, anarchists certainly aren't.

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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          rako
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          Capitalist propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. Most big instances -generalist, tech or something are wholly controlled by bourgeois people who would rather uphold state violence than democracy. What do you think?

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          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

            Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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            shaggyb@lemmy.world
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            Yeah I don't care. I can still find other things to read easily.

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            • K KryptonBlur

              Not all leftists are supportive of China, anarchists certainly aren't.

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              Cowbee [he/they]
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              #173

              That's not a rule, though. Many anarchists critically support the PRC and consider socialism to be better than capitalism, even if they disagree with Marxism and seek communalization over collectivization in the final analysis. As an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, the PRC plays a positive role.

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              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                Their idol Mao killed approx 160 million humans.

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                Cowbee [he/they]
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                Do you have a source on that? Even if you include landlords killed by the peasantry during land reform, all of the deaths by unintentional famine, and the excesses of the cultural revolution as deliberately killed by Mao, the numbers accepted by Historians are nowhere close to 160 million. This is such a fantastical number that even the famously debunked Black Book of Communism doesn't go over 100 million, and that was including the entire history of the soviet union as well as PRC. The Black Book of Communism famously included both non-births as deaths, and Nazis killed by the Red Army as "victims of communism."

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                  Cowbee [he/they]
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                  "Authoritarian" in this case meaning what, exactly? That the states set up by Marxist-Leninists have lasted for longer than a few years, and built up the necessary state structures to protect the gains of socialism?

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                  • R realitista@lemmus.org

                    Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.

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                    Cowbee [he/they]
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                    You can criticize them as long as you aren't doing so from a liberal, anti-communist perspective. The genuine flaws of existing socialism are better analyzed by those that actually study socialism and socialist countries.

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                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                      king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                      Gonna share any examples? Is the Chinese propaganda in the room with us?

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                        lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                        Tits up I guess!

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                        • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                          There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

                          There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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                          king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                          Man's freaking out cos he just learned .ml stands for marxist-leninist 😂
                          Glad to find something we strongly agree on tho comrade.

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                            leftists* are rampant on the fediverse

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                            king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                            Agreed, I find comrades of all kinds of colours and stripes here.

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                            • K king_comrade@lemmy.world

                              Man's freaking out cos he just learned .ml stands for marxist-leninist 😂
                              Glad to find something we strongly agree on tho comrade.

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                              Cowbee [he/they]
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                              To be clear, .ml stands for Mali, and it was allegedly chosen because it was cheap/free. Lemmy.ml is just the flagship, test instance, and happens to have a lot of communists because the devs are communists. Lemmygrad.ml is explicitly ML.

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                                you are getting the deflection backwards. the comparison is very necessary when the problems and contradictions in the countries being smeared pale in comparison.

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                                artyom
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                                No it is not. If that's the case, nothing matters except the worst of the worst. Everything can be excused by "yeah but that other guy is worse so it's okay". It's preposterous.

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                                • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                                  To be clear, .ml stands for Mali, and it was allegedly chosen because it was cheap/free. Lemmy.ml is just the flagship, test instance, and happens to have a lot of communists because the devs are communists. Lemmygrad.ml is explicitly ML.

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                                  hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                  @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

                                  Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

                                  Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

                                  ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

                                  The whole study makes a good read.

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                                  • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                                    There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

                                    There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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                                    Jerkface (any/all)
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                                    okay but it's also a normal thing for the CPC to monitor and influence online spaces and it's certainly not restricted to lemmy

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                                    • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                                      To be clear, .ml stands for Mali, and it was allegedly chosen because it was cheap/free. Lemmy.ml is just the flagship, test instance, and happens to have a lot of communists because the devs are communists. Lemmygrad.ml is explicitly ML.

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                                      king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                                      Ah cheers for the clarity, my mistake

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                                      • K king_comrade@lemmy.world

                                        Ah cheers for the clarity, my mistake

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                                        Cowbee [he/they]
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                                        No worries!

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                                        • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

                                          @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

                                          Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

                                          Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

                                          ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

                                          The whole study makes a good read.

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                                          thoro@lemmy.ml
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                                          I liked the part where they conflate anti Zionism with antisemitism, show one comment/"post" as proof, and don't reference it so readers can view upvotes or context around said post.

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