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Film Students Are Having Trouble Sitting Through Movies, Professors Say

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  • N FunkyCheese

    I hate short movies

    Stories feel rushed and theres not enough time for good story arcs

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    Flamekebab
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    A well constructed film does not feel rushed in a shorter run time.

    I like long films, like really long ones. Ones where the length is part of the experience. For example, I loved Apocalypse Now Redux.

    What I don't like is films that are substantially longer than they need to be. I don't want them pared down, I want them built around the format their story suits rather than padded out. I like breathing room (mostly!) but it's a fine line to walk.

    A good film opening gets on with things quickly, getting the viewer up to speed, but too often I find myself quoting Springfieldians from Marge vs. The Monorail - "GET TO THE MONEY!"

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    • Z zorque@lemmy.world

      There's this thing called "TV shows" for the quick hit you want.

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      #31

      Thank you for the educational response.

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      • P pistcow@lemmy.world

        Yeah, Ive got a 1 year old foster kiddo and 19 year old at the moment (extended foster care to age 23).

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        bcsven@lemmy.ca
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        You are a good human. Children are challenging at the best of timea and fostered children come with their own stuff. Good. On you guys.
        We looked into it when our grown kids moved out. The ministry matched us and we had a non introduction type meeting where they ministry has you at the facilities when the kids are doing activities but they don't know there are foster parents being matches.
        They explained the match was with a 13 year old who'd been abused by his biological parents.
        We felt for the kid but as we went through the process and got more info it turned out his adoptive family had an incident with him and they had unadopted him (I didn't even know that was a legal possibility). And then some history of hurting animals or similar, so we sadly had to back out because we had two small senior dogs. Our only relief was another respite guy had taken a shine and building a relationship with him

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          nogooduser@lemmy.world
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          My sweet spot is the 2:00 to 2:15 mark. Any less than that feels like an extended TV episode to me.

          For some reason, horror movies are good at 1:30 to 1:45.

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            #34

            Just fail them. They shouldn't be anywhere near a film set with the attention span of a gnat. It's dangerous.

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              akasazh@lemmy.world
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              What's next? Philosophy students that can't make it through Heidegger's Sein und Zeit?

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              • F FiniteBanjo

                The youth are such a disappointment. I really did have high hopes for future generations.

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                swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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                #36

                oh hey, you're the one who licks the boots of bill gates, the guy whom it was revealed in the epstein files got an STD from extramarital sex with russian girls of unspecified age.

                Maybe you should just stop posting.

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                  swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  #37

                  i don't fucking blame them, i'll gladly watch 2 hours of my favourite youtubers talking about toasters or whatever, but so many modern movies would drive me to brain death after half an hour.

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                  • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de

                    oh hey, you're the one who licks the boots of bill gates, the guy whom it was revealed in the epstein files got an STD from extramarital sex with russian girls of unspecified age.

                    Maybe you should just stop posting.

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                    FiniteBanjo
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                    The comment in question: https://feddit.online/comment/6965617

                    Looks like Bill Gates should see trial. He should have immediately come to the FBI about this if he had any conscience.

                    Maybe you should eat my ass.

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                    • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                      You are a good human. Children are challenging at the best of timea and fostered children come with their own stuff. Good. On you guys.
                      We looked into it when our grown kids moved out. The ministry matched us and we had a non introduction type meeting where they ministry has you at the facilities when the kids are doing activities but they don't know there are foster parents being matches.
                      They explained the match was with a 13 year old who'd been abused by his biological parents.
                      We felt for the kid but as we went through the process and got more info it turned out his adoptive family had an incident with him and they had unadopted him (I didn't even know that was a legal possibility). And then some history of hurting animals or similar, so we sadly had to back out because we had two small senior dogs. Our only relief was another respite guy had taken a shine and building a relationship with him

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                      pistcow@lemmy.world
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                      It happens, called a "failed adoption". The thing about being a foster parent, we've done it for years, is having boundaries and understanding what youre comfortable with. My wife and I are great at handling trauma and providing a stable environment but there are times we've taken on kids with disabilities and its too exhausting for us but there are foster parents that specialize in that and make a better home for those kiddos.

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                        prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        I love movies, but to be fair, the Brutalist was tough to get through

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                        • FlamekebabF Flamekebab

                          A well constructed film does not feel rushed in a shorter run time.

                          I like long films, like really long ones. Ones where the length is part of the experience. For example, I loved Apocalypse Now Redux.

                          What I don't like is films that are substantially longer than they need to be. I don't want them pared down, I want them built around the format their story suits rather than padded out. I like breathing room (mostly!) but it's a fine line to walk.

                          A good film opening gets on with things quickly, getting the viewer up to speed, but too often I find myself quoting Springfieldians from Marge vs. The Monorail - "GET TO THE MONEY!"

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                          prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          #41

                          A well constructed, long, film also doesn't feel long

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                          • skribeS skribe

                            Just fail them. They shouldn't be anywhere near a film set with the attention span of a gnat. It's dangerous.

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                            prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            Yeah, maybe they're in the wrong field

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                            • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              A well constructed, long, film also doesn't feel long

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                              Flamekebab
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                              #43

                              True, but it's a lot easier for me to find 90 minutes than 180 minutes on a weekday night.

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                              • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                Yeah, maybe they're in the wrong field

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #44

                                They just see the glamour and the $$$, and don't know about the ridiculous hours and working conditions (when you're actually working).

                                When I did film school, our first lecture was 9 hours long. We watched a bunch of experimental films. The second lecture was 7 hours long, watching more (but completely different) experimental films. We started with 300 students, and by the third week we were down to half that. Only a handful of us ever worked professionally and I only know two that are still working (I left a few years ago). It's a brutal industry.

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                                • Z zorque@lemmy.world

                                  Why would you a compelling story squished into a ninety minute marketing pitch?

                                  Not all shows are serialized, either.

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                                  i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world
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                                  Could it be that different stories require different lengths of time to tell? No, that'd be silly. Clearly you two should keep arguing.

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                                  • F FiniteBanjo

                                    Millenials were fed poison but were more progressive than the previous generation.

                                    Gen Z is bucking that trend.

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                                    entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                    Propaganda is a form of poison, and the flavors of propaganda fed to each generation differ

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                                      Propaganda is a form of poison, and the flavors of propaganda fed to each generation differ

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                                      FiniteBanjo
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                                      #47

                                      Look, we can sit here all day talking about the nuance and context and minor differences, but my statement was that I am disappointed in them and regardless of the reason for that it rings true. I feel sadness, loss, and remorse looking at how this new generation has failed the test. Why they failed hardly matters.

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                                      • F FiniteBanjo

                                        Look, we can sit here all day talking about the nuance and context and minor differences, but my statement was that I am disappointed in them and regardless of the reason for that it rings true. I feel sadness, loss, and remorse looking at how this new generation has failed the test. Why they failed hardly matters.

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                                        entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                        Why they failed is the topic of the thread, but feel free to make it about your feelings

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                                        • P pistcow@lemmy.world

                                          It happens, called a "failed adoption". The thing about being a foster parent, we've done it for years, is having boundaries and understanding what youre comfortable with. My wife and I are great at handling trauma and providing a stable environment but there are times we've taken on kids with disabilities and its too exhausting for us but there are foster parents that specialize in that and make a better home for those kiddos.

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                                          wltr@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                          How do you handle trauma? Any specific recommendations?

                                          I wanted to joke about adopting me, but decided there’s a better question to ask instead 🙂

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