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A Baldur's Gate HBO series is in the works, will be set directly after Baldur's Gate 3 with new and returning characters

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    HubertManne
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    I think its a mistake to do it as a followup. they should at least have a movie or miniseries with the initial story. I mean gamers yeah played it and know the story but for a tv series they should do the initial story. Not to mention the whole ship crashing thing is to big a opportinity for cinematics.

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    • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

      Can we just not do this?

      One, not every thing needs to be a whole franchise universe.

      Two, the game had a lot of decisions players could make. Collapsing that into a single canon is going to be unsatisfying. It was annoying enough that bg3 made some big decisions about choices from bg2.

      Related, if they ever make another game in the franchise this show will probably be canon, so it's not entirely ignorable.

      Three, it's not even that interesting a setting. It's pretty Standard Fantasy.

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      HubertManne
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      wait. bg3 is influenced by the bg2 story?

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      • K khornechips@sh.itjust.works

        I haven’t read the books… (shame, I know) but is this just describing Drizzt?

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        Droechai
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        Yes, yes it does 🙂

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          wait. bg3 is influenced by the bg2 story?

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          introvertturtle@lemmy.zip
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          Somewhat. It's story is mostly independent, but it does take place after 2 and therefore has canonized several of the decisions you could make in 2, as well as a few returning characters.

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          • I introvertturtle@lemmy.zip

            Somewhat. It's story is mostly independent, but it does take place after 2 and therefore has canonized several of the decisions you could make in 2, as well as a few returning characters.

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            HubertManne
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            interesting. I had not played 2 and 3 seemed like such a contained story I did not think there was any crossover.

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            • H HubertManne

              interesting. I had not played 2 and 3 seemed like such a contained story I did not think there was any crossover.

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              introvertturtle@lemmy.zip
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              Yeah, not sure who was in which games, but Minsc and Jaheira were grouped with one of the protagonists, and at least one of the games had another Bhal spawn.

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              • I introvertturtle@lemmy.zip

                Yeah, not sure who was in which games, but Minsc and Jaheira were grouped with one of the protagonists, and at least one of the games had another Bhal spawn.

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                HubertManne
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                minsc has been in a lot of games though yeah? I think he was in the neverwinter mmo.

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                • H HubertManne

                  minsc has been in a lot of games though yeah? I think he was in the neverwinter mmo.

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                  introvertturtle@lemmy.zip
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                  Not sure, the only game I played before BG3 was Dark Alliance 2 on PS2 around 20 years ago. Well that and homebrew 3.5e/5e tabletop, but that obviously was unrelated story-wise.

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                  • I introvertturtle@lemmy.zip

                    Not sure, the only game I played before BG3 was Dark Alliance 2 on PS2 around 20 years ago. Well that and homebrew 3.5e/5e tabletop, but that obviously was unrelated story-wise.

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                    ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                    Other than Jaheira, almost all of the connective tissue is found in Act 3, but that makes sense, because it takes place in the titular city. There are at least two characters in Act 3 that are not in your party that return from previous games.

                    ::: spoiler spoiler
                    One is in the Shar temple, and one is in the Bhaal temple.
                    :::

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                    • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                      Can we just not do this?

                      One, not every thing needs to be a whole franchise universe.

                      Two, the game had a lot of decisions players could make. Collapsing that into a single canon is going to be unsatisfying. It was annoying enough that bg3 made some big decisions about choices from bg2.

                      Related, if they ever make another game in the franchise this show will probably be canon, so it's not entirely ignorable.

                      Three, it's not even that interesting a setting. It's pretty Standard Fantasy.

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                      ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                      We've had a pretty good hit rate with video game adaptations lately. Fallout and Arcane are both among my favorite TV shows. I think we finally got far enough along that show runners are gamers themselves and aware of what makes these things good and what needs to change to be a good show.

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                      • G grimy@lemmy.world

                        We don't get many high budget fantasy shows. I'm all for it. Larian is already moving away from bg anyways, I think wizards of the coast upped their licensing price by quite a bit.

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                        politedudeinthemood@lemmy.ca
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                        That was an annoying thing, every Larian game that was released in EA had an EA price. BG3 didn't, it was full price from the start. And a highly inflated price than what Larian titles had been going for once released.

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                        • I iamthetot

                          You know you don't have to watch it.

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                          damage@feddit.it
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                          Yeah but they'll mess with the canon and then we'll all have to deal with it.

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                          • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                            Can we just not do this?

                            One, not every thing needs to be a whole franchise universe.

                            Two, the game had a lot of decisions players could make. Collapsing that into a single canon is going to be unsatisfying. It was annoying enough that bg3 made some big decisions about choices from bg2.

                            Related, if they ever make another game in the franchise this show will probably be canon, so it's not entirely ignorable.

                            Three, it's not even that interesting a setting. It's pretty Standard Fantasy.

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                            mcforest@feddit.org
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                            One, not every thing needs to be a whole franchise universe.

                            Bruh, DnD already is one.

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                            • I introvertturtle@lemmy.zip

                              Yeah, not sure who was in which games, but Minsc and Jaheira were grouped with one of the protagonists, and at least one of the games had another Bhal spawn.

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                              damage@feddit.it
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                              Minsc and Jaheira were in both BG1&2, the big bad of BG1 was a Bhaal spawn as was one of the protagonist's friends. There's more characters from the older games, such as
                              ::: spoiler Spoiler
                              Shadowheart's mistress/boss/whatever
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                                damage@feddit.it
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                                Does it make sense to do this for something that is already part of a larger franchise (d&d)? Diablo would be a better candidate for a linear story I think.

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                                • H HubertManne

                                  interesting. I had not played 2 and 3 seemed like such a contained story I did not think there was any crossover.

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                                  jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                                  Spoiler for Shadowheart's story

                                  ::: spoiler spoiler
                                  Viconia is a recruitable party member in bg1 and 2. You can even make her not evil at the end. I was bummed that they decided that she just stays evil.
                                  :::

                                  And for the main plot in act 3, with a certain bhaalspawn.
                                  ::: spoiler spoiler
                                  You can also redeem sarevok, but they just decided that he's evil.
                                  :::

                                  Annoying, but I get why they didn't do like a save import from an ancient game.

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                                    We've had a pretty good hit rate with video game adaptations lately. Fallout and Arcane are both among my favorite TV shows. I think we finally got far enough along that show runners are gamers themselves and aware of what makes these things good and what needs to change to be a good show.

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                                    jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                                    I kind of refuse to watch Fallout. Partly because I read they fucked up the NCR. But also Amazon sucks , and Bethesda is kind of creatively bankrupt.

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                                      adolfschmitler@lemmy.world
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                                      Saw a video about comedies from the early 2000's and some of the old heads were talking about how they didn't need IP's cuz the actors and the situation was all they needed. Paul Rudd has to do community service watching a kid. Jason Segal got dumped and goes on vacation to try and forget about his ex. Steve Carell is a virgin at 40, etc etc. It's crazy that every studio now seems to NEED an IP or else they can't make a movie.

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                                      • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                                        I kind of refuse to watch Fallout. Partly because I read they fucked up the NCR. But also Amazon sucks , and Bethesda is kind of creatively bankrupt.

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                                        ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                                        To each their own, but I thought they completely nailed the tone, respectfully incorporated the established fiction, and even wrote some great new characters.

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                                        • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                                          To each their own, but I thought they completely nailed the tone, respectfully incorporated the established fiction, and even wrote some great new characters.

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                                          jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                                          What made new Vegas interesting was that it's not just another kitschy wasteland romp. It's post-post-apocalypse, and it asks who rebuilds after.

                                          My limited understanding is the TV show nuked the NCR so they could do more wasteland theme park, and not continue that train of thought. But also didn't just set it somewhere else.

                                          But admittedly I haven't actually watched it.

                                          But also, again, trying to make a TV show intersect with a video game with multiple endings is a foolish idea. You won't make everyone happy, and it's an entirely avoidable problem. They could've just set the show in a different part of the world that hasn't had a game.

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