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Japanese Developer Behind Tech That Studio Ghibli's Hayao Miyazaki Called an 'Insult to Life Itself' to Release Cosy God Sim Game - IGN

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      gustofwind@lemmy.world
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      Tech bros simply have no human soul

      That explains most of everything about them

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        Tech bros simply have no human soul

        That explains most of everything about them

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        lembot_0006@programming.dev
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        But they have brains. That's better.

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          But they have brains. That's better.

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          gustofwind@lemmy.world
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          Mosquitos have brains too

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            I am not sure using machine learning to help evolving video game creatures figure out how to interact with their virtual environment is at the same level of slop as LLM or image generation. I think that’s actually a pretty cool implementation of the technology.

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              Tech bros simply have no human soul

              That explains most of everything about them

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              mohab
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              I love technology, but I couldn't fathom making it my whole identity. I don't understand how anyone could do it without feeling dead inside because that shit, by definition, is cold AF and absolutely has no heart.

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                This is the most click-thirsty headline I've read this year so far. It isn't clickbait cuz is not false, but it feels... wrong.

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                  I love technology, but I couldn't fathom making it my whole identity. I don't understand how anyone could do it without feeling dead inside because that shit, by definition, is cold AF and absolutely has no heart.

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                  I think it’s mostly addiction and if you could just physically throw them outside forever banned from it they’d relearn how to be a human being again and could go make art and culture once more

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                    I am not sure using machine learning to help evolving video game creatures figure out how to interact with their virtual environment is at the same level of slop as LLM or image generation. I think that’s actually a pretty cool implementation of the technology.

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                    ski11erboi@lemmy.world
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                    Yeah just sounds like Miyazaki reviewed a game idea before drinking his morning coffee. I don't see any issues here.

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                      tiny_hedgehog
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                      I had to read this headline once. Then twice. Then a third time, really slowly, to actually parse its meaning. After doing that, I was fed up with the article already so didn’t read it.

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                        I had to read this headline once. Then twice. Then a third time, really slowly, to actually parse its meaning. After doing that, I was fed up with the article already so didn’t read it.

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                        zahille7@lemmy.world
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                        Imo it's not that hard to understand.

                        There's a company that created some technology that Hayao Miyazaki hates, and that company is going to release a game.

                        It's not that hard.

                        Is reading comprehension really just circling the damn drain at this point? Like yeah I've seen some article titles that absolutely do not make sense; this isn't one of those.

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                          This is the most click-thirsty headline I've read this year so far. It isn't clickbait cuz is not false, but it feels... wrong.

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                          iamthetot
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                          Why do you say that? I thought that it was an interesting story. Miyazaki's comments have cultural significance imho.

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                            Why do you say that? I thought that it was an interesting story. Miyazaki's comments have cultural significance imho.

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                            I just think it's wrong to place more emphasis on that potentially traumatic episode in that man's life than on what he is doing. As if the most important thing were that he was the guy Miyazaki told to his face that his work was an insult to humanity itself.

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                              Yeah just sounds like Miyazaki reviewed a game idea before drinking his morning coffee. I don't see any issues here.

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                              tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website
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                              It’s not exactly that. IIRC he was shown a new graphic design tool the company wanted Ghibli to use. The tool let the user used a stick man and copy-paste anything on it than make it walk and do thing, here’s the kicker the lead salesman was really into the program possibilities and show to Miyazaki that you can instruct the program to consider the feet of the stick man to be its head and etc.

                              The result were ghastly dull and, not impressed, Miyazaki ask the salesman who design that and how much time it take. A few keystrokes said the Salesman at which point he insult the salesman saying that he doesn’t understand what make a movie or something horrific, that ultimately what he was selling was an insult to life… and the salesman cried

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                                Imo it's not that hard to understand.

                                There's a company that created some technology that Hayao Miyazaki hates, and that company is going to release a game.

                                It's not that hard.

                                Is reading comprehension really just circling the damn drain at this point? Like yeah I've seen some article titles that absolutely do not make sense; this isn't one of those.

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                                tiny_hedgehog
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                                I will be the first to admit that I am a dumb dumb.

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                                  It’s not exactly that. IIRC he was shown a new graphic design tool the company wanted Ghibli to use. The tool let the user used a stick man and copy-paste anything on it than make it walk and do thing, here’s the kicker the lead salesman was really into the program possibilities and show to Miyazaki that you can instruct the program to consider the feet of the stick man to be its head and etc.

                                  The result were ghastly dull and, not impressed, Miyazaki ask the salesman who design that and how much time it take. A few keystrokes said the Salesman at which point he insult the salesman saying that he doesn’t understand what make a movie or something horrific, that ultimately what he was selling was an insult to life… and the salesman cried

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                                  brsrklf@jlai.lu
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                                  Thing is, making a life-simulation-game thing with creatures powered by AI is interesting. Not necessarily gen AI though, not the ultra-costly large model kind in any case.
                                  I am still waiting for something like Creatures to come back.

                                  However, demoing the same technology to an animation artist... What did they expect? Of course it'll sound like suggesting that they do the same thing, and of course the guys trying to do art will not like it.

                                  And honestly, they went to the guy that was notoriously the least likely to be polite about this.

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                                    I will be the first to admit that I am a dumb dumb.

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                                    nutinbutnet@hilariouschaos.com
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                                    No you were correct. It’s a shit headline. I had to re-read it a few times and still not completely sure I understand what it’s trying to convey without reading the article, itself.

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                                      No you were correct. It’s a shit headline. I had to re-read it a few times and still not completely sure I understand what it’s trying to convey without reading the article, itself.

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                                      zahille7@lemmy.world
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                                      I keep rereading the title because you say it doesn't make sense. It makes complete sense. I think you just need to work on your comprehension skills.

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                                        Thanks to this article, I've put ANLIFE on my ignore list, as AI-driven games don't interest me. That headline is horrible, but, it could be parsed after thinking about it. IGN needs to proofread their headlines before publishing. I do agree with Hayao, AI/LLMs are an insult to life, and creativity given the current push to steal the works of artists and spit out slop. Robbing people of the joy of creation, which would make life truly hollow.

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                                        • Z zahille7@lemmy.world

                                          I keep rereading the title because you say it doesn't make sense. It makes complete sense. I think you just need to work on your comprehension skills.

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                                          nutinbutnet@hilariouschaos.com
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                                          This isn’t about reading comprehension. This is about some jackass editor making a title with too many words instead of condensing it by removing a title or a name or just including some commas to separate words from one another.

                                          Japanese Developer, [who was] Behind Tech That Studio Ghibli's Hayao Miyazaki Called an 'Insult to Life Itself', to Release Cosy God Sim Game

                                          Those comma placements would have helped a ton making better sense of what they were trying to convey. But since titles shouldn’t include commas, they should have just chose a different way to phrase this.

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