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Would it be realistic to try to set up an america-free instance?

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  • A Ace

    I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

    But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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    Hello_there
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    I'm all for it.
    Just make sure the ip block is only for posting not reading. Some of us here want out.

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    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS skullgrid@lemmy.world

      you need people to shitpost. unfortunately that means the USaians and their fucking constant barrage of political failure news.

      Nothing wrong with the yanks, but their constant news that overtake any other things happening around the world is fucking annoying.

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      Nothing wrong with the yanks

      I appreciate you trying to be nice but there's so so so so so much wrong with us amerikkka

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      • C combatwombatesq@lemmy.world

        You can block amerigocentric instances and users (like me!) if you want, but people will still use vpns to say “soccer” on your America-free instances and I don’t think there’s anything to be done to prevent that.

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        #23

        Yeah I'm from the US and while I would respect the community's wishes not to hear from me, I would 1000% listen through a VPN so I can learn and signal-boost your non-AmeriKKKan perspectives 😆

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        • ShimitarS Shimitar

          Well, I think there are a few... Indeed I know at least two italian instances, plus my private instance....

          But most of activity is currently on USA instances like world, so...

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          Malta Soron
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          .world is Dutch

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            .world is Dutch

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            Optional
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            *Musical sting*

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            • A Ace

              I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

              But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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              PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]
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              I'm sorry that we're like this. I've been working my entire adult life to unlearn the lies and bullshit that the AmeriKKKan settler-colonial entity has hammered into our heads. I completely understand if you don't want to hear from AmeriKKKans, but I really want to listen to non-AmeriKKKan perspectives and signal-boost these perspectives into AmeriKKKan-dominated spaces.

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              • A Ace

                I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                foggy@lemmy.world
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                Tagged as Xenophobic.

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                • F foggy@lemmy.world

                  Tagged as Xenophobic.

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                  Drusas
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                  It's more bigotry than it is general xenophobia.

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                  • A Ace

                    I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                    But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                    jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world
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                    And we were told cancel culture had peaked.

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                      artyom
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                      Your point?

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                      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]P PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]

                        Nothing wrong with the yanks

                        I appreciate you trying to be nice but there's so so so so so much wrong with us amerikkka

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                        skullgrid@lemmy.world
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                        I mean by default. the point is your country is fucked up, but there's nothing inherently wrong with one just because they're from the states

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                        • M Malta Soron

                          .world is Dutch

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                          Shimitar
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                          Really? Wow... I assumes was USA LoL

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                            When was the last time that people who banned others based on country of origin were the good guys?

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                            northernscrub@lemmy.world
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                            Unfortunately, the US is taking advantage of this axiom. Their unfettered drive of "influential" content amounts to, essentially, an undeclared cultural invasion.

                            Sadly, just one lemmy instance doing this won't change much. The US has been invested in destroying my country since the 1970's.

                            I can't say that Russia or China are any better, before anyone asks.

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                              .world is Dutch

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                              northernscrub@lemmy.world
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                              GEKOLONISEERD

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                              • artyomA artyom

                                Your point?

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                                Maeve
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                                Even if you think you're getting away from USA politics and economics, it is still influencing other politics and economics, and I don't see how discussions can entirely avoid the elephant in the room.

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                                • A Ace

                                  I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                                  But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                                  I get it, the US fucking sucks. But I didn't choose to be from here and I'm doing my best with what I've got. The fediverse has been one of the only somewhat sane spaces I can get away from the nonstop propaganda machine.

                                  Block the American communities all you want, but many of us are here to escape the bullshit, not spread it. Sorry our discussion of our politics in communities dedicated to our politics bothers you I guess? You don't really seem to me to understand the point of the fediverse

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                                  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]P PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]

                                    Yeah I'm from the US and while I would respect the community's wishes not to hear from me, I would 1000% listen through a VPN so I can learn and signal-boost your non-AmeriKKKan perspectives 😆

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                                    combatwombatesq@lemmy.world
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                                    I dunno. I think there’s a prevailing attitude that you should only use moderation tools as punishment for bad behavior, but it’s also fine to use them as a curation tool. But you have to understand that it cuts both ways — if you block someone, you can’t influence their opinions anymore because they will never hear from you either.

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                                      CerebralHawks
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                                      Look into the origin of the term "soccer." I was curious, so I did. Long story short, it comes from "association football." I call American football "gridiron football" because, quite ironically, it IS a form of football.

                                      It's like saying we can't call refried beans beans because they're not like black beans (I was just thinking about Mexican food, sorry!). Gridiron football may not be your cup of tea, but it IS football. Association football just deserves the term more. Also, in the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, if you just say football, people assume gridiron (and specifically NFL).

                                      I kinda hate that it's like that, I wish things were more accurately described, but at least we can control how our words are received by knowing what people expect from certain words.

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                                      • A Ace

                                        I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                                        But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                                        CerebralHawks
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                                        In theory it's a fine idea; in practice it just sounds messy.

                                        Better to just follow region-specific communities like Europe (not sure if it's on .world or .ml). I think you can post there if you're American, but you shouldn't expect that most people there are, or that they will care about American stuff, and I wouldn't make a thread about American stuff, and a moderator would be well within rights to delete it. But the Internet is global and for everyone.

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                                        • A Ace

                                          I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                                          But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                                          Rimu
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                                          During federation the IP address and country of the accounts involved is not shared with other instances so although you could lock down your instance as soon as you federate you'd have people from all over sending you content.

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