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  • C criss_cross@lemmy.world

    This is like designing a Game of Thrones fighting game.

    You can throw all the clever nods you want into the product. You can read the source material to high heaven and spend all the time in the world perfecting it. You can hire the best and brightest fighting game devs to come in and design the best game ever.

    Fundamentally it will never work. Game of Thrones’ charm is in its politics, feeling of isolation, and world building. There’s no way to bring anything out of that in a fighting game. As soon as you put Renly against Joeffry in a match to the death anyone that’s a fan will just look at the product befuddled.

    For this reality show you’re taking a franchise that’s known for its single player experience and tight top notch writing for both the games (at least 1 and 2) and tv show and stripping that away in favor of a format that encourages none of that. All it’s going to be is some weird challenge with loser kids going “OMG I WASNT EXPECTING THAT!!” and “What. The. Fuck. “ for 30 minutes. It’s not going to be good. And it’s gonna be a shit stain on the franchise.

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    orgrinrt@lemmy.world
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    I think there’s a real angle there for something, in regards to the various vaults and what they are for. But I can’t see how that would convert to anything practically doable. But imagine squid game, basically, with each season being a different vault and a different experiment. Of course it can’t work as a reality show for obvious reasons, but I really do think it could be a hit show as a seasonal anthology series.

    The tests and the vaults are a big part of the fallout lore after all, and part of it’s charm. I think there’s a lot there, even something that could work as a reality show were we not civilized and peaceful and instead allowed something like real life squid game concepts in reality shows.

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    • Classy HatterC Classy Hatter

      Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

      The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

      I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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      stalinwolf@lemmy.ca
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      Just get people to agree to live in crowded vaults and have them sign a waver accepting any and all psychological torture performed on them. That's a functional Fallout reality show.

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      • R Rhoeri

        It’s like how I can’t stand to watch Kevin Spacey movies after we all found out about who he is.

        Does it mean he’s no longer a talented actor? No. Does it make his movies suck? No. Does it taint everything he ever did and now seeing him reminds you of how shitty he is as a person?

        a Resounding and emphatic- YES.

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        bigbananadealer@lemmy.world
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        if thats the case, everybody should have stopped liking fallout after the brotherhood of steel game came out. and yet they didnt.

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        • O orgrinrt@lemmy.world

          I think there’s a real angle there for something, in regards to the various vaults and what they are for. But I can’t see how that would convert to anything practically doable. But imagine squid game, basically, with each season being a different vault and a different experiment. Of course it can’t work as a reality show for obvious reasons, but I really do think it could be a hit show as a seasonal anthology series.

          The tests and the vaults are a big part of the fallout lore after all, and part of it’s charm. I think there’s a lot there, even something that could work as a reality show were we not civilized and peaceful and instead allowed something like real life squid game concepts in reality shows.

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          skyezopen@lemmy.world
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          The bachelor is basically vault 69. Amazon is late to the party.

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            wirelesswire@lemmy.zip
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            Maybe. Maybe not. Some Amazon exec thinks it will, though.

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            • C criss_cross@lemmy.world

              This is like designing a Game of Thrones fighting game.

              You can throw all the clever nods you want into the product. You can read the source material to high heaven and spend all the time in the world perfecting it. You can hire the best and brightest fighting game devs to come in and design the best game ever.

              Fundamentally it will never work. Game of Thrones’ charm is in its politics, feeling of isolation, and world building. There’s no way to bring anything out of that in a fighting game. As soon as you put Renly against Joeffry in a match to the death anyone that’s a fan will just look at the product befuddled.

              For this reality show you’re taking a franchise that’s known for its single player experience and tight top notch writing for both the games (at least 1 and 2) and tv show and stripping that away in favor of a format that encourages none of that. All it’s going to be is some weird challenge with loser kids going “OMG I WASNT EXPECTING THAT!!” and “What. The. Fuck. “ for 30 minutes. It’s not going to be good. And it’s gonna be a shit stain on the franchise.

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              Ephera
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              #60

              Yeah, it reads like they wanted to make that reality show and then just slapped a random franchise on it for PR reasons.

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              • stalinwolf@lemmy.caS stalinwolf@lemmy.ca

                Just get people to agree to live in crowded vaults and have them sign a waver accepting any and all psychological torture performed on them. That's a functional Fallout reality show.

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                ironbird@lemmy.world
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                that's just real life at this point, with algo social media

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                • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipW wirelesswire@lemmy.zip

                  A reality show vault? Not even Vault-Tec had any experiments that were that cruel.

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                  cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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                  #62

                  Yeah... this seems pretty on brand really.

                  Actually, it seems really well themed, a messed up reality show is exactly the kind of thing you might find in a vault. The thing to remember though, is that Vault-Tec is supposed to be satirical... Bethesda should not become Vault-Tec because that would be unethical... Right Bethesda... Right?

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                  • Classy HatterC Classy Hatter

                    Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

                    The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

                    I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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                    cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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                    Reality TV. Reality TV never changes...

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                    • D drstevebrule@mander.xyz

                      The crime doesn't have to equate? Why bring up Kevin Spacey's crimes at all? How is that relevant to not liking the direction a franchise went?

                      I don't feel that "this franchise went in a bad direction, so now I can't enjoy the previous works" is anything like "this person is a sexual predator, so now I can't enjoy their previous works".

                      It would be really awkward to watch a known sexual predator in a movie, even if the movie predates the crime. The existence of the Fallout TV show has no effect on Fallout 1 as a game.

                      What a weird turn this conversation took lol

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                      Rhoeri
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                      #64

                      Are you purposefully missing the point in favor of grandstanding, or did you seriously not understand the comparison for what it was?

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                      • R Rhoeri

                        Are you purposefully missing the point in favor of grandstanding, or did you seriously not understand the comparison for what it was?

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                        drstevebrule@mander.xyz
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                        I guess I'm truly not understanding the comparison. I do not see the similarity between having a series ruined because an actor is a sexual predator and having a series ruined because you don't like the sequel. Not sure what part of those scenarios you were comparing, but I'm just not seeing it.

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                        • E Ech

                          Didn't they, though? https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Vault_11

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                          teft
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                          Or vault 81. One side had a full community to be tested on and observed, the other side had scientists watching the experiment.

                          It’s just a shame hardly any scientists showed up. They’d have had some great tv to watch after starting their molerat experiments.

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                          • Classy HatterC Classy Hatter

                            Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

                            The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

                            I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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                            rinn@awful.systems
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                            I had to check what community I'm in, still can't believe this is not the Onion.

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                            • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS supervisor194@lemmy.world

                              I'm not sure what your point is - is it that they made Fallout 76 so you could play it for free? Or that Fallout 76 is proof they're going to make Fallout 5? Or what.

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                              zoostation@lemmy.world
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                              There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon. In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5. It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

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                              • Z zoostation@lemmy.world

                                There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon. In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5. It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

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                                supervisor194@lemmy.world
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                                There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon.

                                If it came out tomorrow it wouldn't be "soon," Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago.

                                In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5.

                                The game is currently listed for $39.99 on Steam. Reviews are "mixed" after 5 years of Bethesda adding content to the game, which originally released to overwhelmingly negative reviews, so not "great".

                                It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

                                The game does not charge for a subscription, but you most certainly have to have one, because you have to login to the game. There would be no way for them to try and sell you shit through their microtransaction store every single time you login otherwise. Which they do. You are not obliged to buy them, but you are obliged to view ads for them.

                                Now then. Every single thing you just said is demonstrably wrong. What exactly makes you the authority on what Bethesda intends to do with Fallout?

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                                • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS supervisor194@lemmy.world

                                  There's zero chance there won't be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won't be soon.

                                  If it came out tomorrow it wouldn't be "soon," Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago.

                                  In the meantime there's a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5.

                                  The game is currently listed for $39.99 on Steam. Reviews are "mixed" after 5 years of Bethesda adding content to the game, which originally released to overwhelmingly negative reviews, so not "great".

                                  It doesn't require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don't know what it is.

                                  The game does not charge for a subscription, but you most certainly have to have one, because you have to login to the game. There would be no way for them to try and sell you shit through their microtransaction store every single time you login otherwise. Which they do. You are not obliged to buy them, but you are obliged to view ads for them.

                                  Now then. Every single thing you just said is demonstrably wrong. What exactly makes you the authority on what Bethesda intends to do with Fallout?

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                                  zoostation@lemmy.world
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                                  Sometimes I forget people don't have Game Pass lol. I haven't bought anything from Steam in over 5 years.

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                                  • E etterra@discuss.online

                                    Great, sounds terrible. Now where the hell is Fallout 5?

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                                    It'll come when they feel the need for a shitty tv show tie-in

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                                    • Classy HatterC Classy Hatter

                                      Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

                                      The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

                                      I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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                                      shut up todd.

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                                      • Classy HatterC Classy Hatter

                                        Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

                                        The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.

                                        I am sort of speechless, but for all the wrong reasons.

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                                        matthewm05@ttrpg.network
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                                        It's cheaper to make hollywood slop than video games.

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                                        • N ThrowawayOnLemmy

                                          Is it just me or does this feel tone deaf?

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                                          dalekcaan@feddit.nl
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                                          I'd be shocked and appalled by the tone-deafness if Mr. Beast hadn't already literally made a Squid Game style gameshow. Media literacy and irony are both well and truly dead.

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