Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.
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I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...
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So there are two purposes for this "bad list"
- for filtering which communities to federate with in the beginning
- to calculate user reputation score
correct?
The federation filtering is blocking IMO. It affects what comms users of the instance can find (via search).
Anyway maybe in Your PR You should make a separately configurable list for each purpose. I don't see a reason why it should be the same list.
No, just one purpose, the second one.
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I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do
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As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.
I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed
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Yeah I’m reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.
I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.
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I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.
Yeah no worries. I’m happy with any effort that brings more people to the fediverse. My comments were honest and constructive criticism. Wasn’t meant to offend. Keep up the good work.
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cool, thx
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I saw it in a post about people getting temp bans for simply stating that EU allies would be right to defend Greenland in case of military action. Might just have been one of several grievances with Reddit at the moment though
Woah, I haven't heard about this. Are those temp bans on specific subreddits or a site-wide ban for not being pro-Trump?
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As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.
I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed
Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:
I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.
So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.
https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529
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Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised
- the thorn character filter
- 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
- the "this filter" being configurable
My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing
- multicommunities
- onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
- crossposts comments consolidation
- communities moderation features
- posts and user flairs
- keyword filters
None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.
What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .
That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.
I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.
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The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It's here https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.
There's a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It's called Lemmy. You can find the source here https://github.com/lemmynet/lemmy
Lemmy is missing several features that Piefed has had for more than a year now: https://piefed.zip/post/1008300#comment_3561702
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Donating is great, sure, and they're probably more likely to stick around if they paid, but just because someone isn't donating doesn't mean they won't be active in the comments or by making posts. Not to mention they might spread the word to friends, some of whom might donate.
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Memes is a banned url, huh? Okay, let's test this scientifically. After I make this comment, I'm gonna go to !memes@lemmy.world and see if I get any posts.
Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.
Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.
See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
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Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?
Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.
See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
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Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.
Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.
See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293
Me shocked to learn that PieFed (the software I am currently using) will delete My comment if it starts with a gif (like this one does)
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Maybe it can be one day but right now it’s 100% not production-grade software.
Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?
Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat
Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs
The opinions of the devs have so far (at least as far as I know) not spread into the actual code though.
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Woah, I haven't heard about this. Are those temp bans on specific subreddits or a site-wide ban for not being pro-Trump?
It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".
The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf
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It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".
The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf
I'm probably applying too much logic here which Reddit admins don't seem to like, but... how can defending oneself if something happens (not even preemptively, but after the fact) be threatening violence, while Trump repeatedly saying they're gonna own Greenland one way or another is not threatening violence?
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If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?
That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.
What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?
How about this one?
'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.
obviously not that "hardcoded" since piefed.zip can access these things just fine
https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.worldhttps://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.compiefed.ca too
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I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do
And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.
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Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:
I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.
So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.
https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529
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Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised
- the thorn character filter
- 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
- the "this filter" being configurable
My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing
- multicommunities
- onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
- crossposts comments consolidation
- communities moderation features
- posts and user flairs
- keyword filters
None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.
What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .
That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.
I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.
All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.
