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  • breakfastmtnB This user is from outside of this forum
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    breakfastmtn
    wrote last edited by breakfastmtn@piefed.ca
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    The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

    A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

    The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

    Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

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    • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

      The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

      A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

      The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

      Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

      MarshezezzM This user is from outside of this forum
      MarshezezzM This user is from outside of this forum
      Marshezezz
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      Who is the person that needs to experience that perspective? It seems pretty unanimous that Polanski is a monster

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      • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

        Who is the person that needs to experience that perspective? It seems pretty unanimous that Polanski is a monster

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        breakfastmtn
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        It's about her though, not Polanski.

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        • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

          It's about her though, not Polanski.

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          Marshezezz
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          I am aware of that, I’m just not sure who needs to experience the perspective

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          • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

            I am aware of that, I’m just not sure who needs to experience the perspective

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            ilandar@lemmy.today
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            Victims are often reduced to a stereotype or forgotten so it's important that their stories are told too. You're making the assumption that the only perspective this film can offer is that of a rape victim; in other words, the victim is just someone who was raped and nothing more.

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            • I ilandar@lemmy.today

              Victims are often reduced to a stereotype or forgotten so it's important that their stories are told too. You're making the assumption that the only perspective this film can offer is that of a rape victim; in other words, the victim is just someone who was raped and nothing more.

              MarshezezzM This user is from outside of this forum
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              Marshezezz
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              That’s not at all what I’m saying but you continue to put words in my mouth so whatever.

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              • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

                The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

                A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

                The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

                Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

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                sharkweek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                I hope dearly that this is done well, proper representation of victims as real and complex people is something sorely lacking from the world.

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                • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

                  The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

                  A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

                  The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

                  Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

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                  Darthcapi
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                  Who asked for this? They better not screw this up

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                  • I ilandar@lemmy.today

                    Victims are often reduced to a stereotype or forgotten so it's important that their stories are told too. You're making the assumption that the only perspective this film can offer is that of a rape victim; in other words, the victim is just someone who was raped and nothing more.

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                    The film Lilya 4-ever was both informational and moving for me, about a young Slavic woman who wanted to escape the misery of her squalid surroundings, but in trying to break out, fell in to a web of sex-slave traffickers.

                    The Polanski stuff was pretty much before my time, so I'd similarly like to see a movie about this woman's life.

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                    • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

                      That’s not at all what I’m saying but you continue to put words in my mouth so whatever.

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                      ilandar@lemmy.today
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                      What are you saying? You've continued to reiterate that no one would need to "experience that perspective" in relation to the victim. Why not? What shouldn't their story be explored on screen?

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                      • I ilandar@lemmy.today

                        What are you saying? You've continued to reiterate that no one would need to "experience that perspective" in relation to the victim. Why not? What shouldn't their story be explored on screen?

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                        Marshezezz
                        wrote last edited by marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                        #11

                        You are continually trying to force me into some defensive argument that isn’t there, making me question your motives. I’m just asking a question and your response is to defensively try to shoehorn in something that I didn’t once say. Why is this your response to me asking that question? You have yet to answer the actual question. I am genuinely curious because it seems to me that it’s almost exploitative but maybe I’m wrong about that. It isn’t necessary to sit there and try to frame me like I’m being a piece of shit for asking something when you could have just been informative. Your reaction to that being so defensive just makes me question your response. I thought what I was saying was clear in my first post.

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                        • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

                          You are continually trying to force me into some defensive argument that isn’t there, making me question your motives. I’m just asking a question and your response is to defensively try to shoehorn in something that I didn’t once say. Why is this your response to me asking that question? You have yet to answer the actual question. I am genuinely curious because it seems to me that it’s almost exploitative but maybe I’m wrong about that. It isn’t necessary to sit there and try to frame me like I’m being a piece of shit for asking something when you could have just been informative. Your reaction to that being so defensive just makes me question your response. I thought what I was saying was clear in my first post.

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                          ilandar@lemmy.today
                          wrote last edited by ilandar@lemmy.today
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                          Are you saying the film is exploitative? The one based on the Geimer's memoir? The one made in collaboration with/with the blessing of Geimer?

                          Geimer, who has since forgiven Polanski and remained in periodic contact with him, said in statement: “This story has been a lifelong burden for all of us involved. I never imagined it could be transformed into something beautiful. Marina’s creativity and sensitivity made that possible – and that, to me, is a gift.”

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                          • I ilandar@lemmy.today

                            Are you saying the film is exploitative? The one based on the Geimer's memoir? The one made in collaboration with/with the blessing of Geimer?

                            Geimer, who has since forgiven Polanski and remained in periodic contact with him, said in statement: “This story has been a lifelong burden for all of us involved. I never imagined it could be transformed into something beautiful. Marina’s creativity and sensitivity made that possible – and that, to me, is a gift.”

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                            Marshezezz
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                            Cool, thanks for finally being somewhat a little informative about it. It doesn’t state that in the post. Although I still don’t understand why you are being so combative about this.

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                            • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

                              Cool, thanks for finally being somewhat a little informative about it. It doesn’t state that in the post. Although I still don’t understand why you are being so combative about this.

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                              ilandar@lemmy.today
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                              That quote was from the article directly linked above...

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                              • I ilandar@lemmy.today

                                That quote was from the article directly linked above...

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                                Marshezezz
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                                It’s not in what you posted, you presented it, it would be a good portion of the article to include in the post. It’s not my job to give articles clicks.

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                                • MarshezezzM Marshezezz

                                  It’s not in what you posted, you presented it, it would be a good portion of the article to include in the post. It’s not my job to give articles clicks.

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                                  ilandar@lemmy.today
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                                  I didn't share the article.

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                                  • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

                                    The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

                                    A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

                                    The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

                                    Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

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                                    Vanth
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                                    I am conflicted. I don't know what I want out of this movie. I don't want anything at all that casts a positive light on child rapist Roman Polanski, yet I want to respect Ms. Geimer's wishes and see that if anyone profits from all this that it be her, yet I can't help but feel like this is still somehow exploiting her.

                                    What I really want is for France and the film industry worldwide to stop pandering to this admitted child rapist. So many interesting voices out there and we have to waste even a moment's thought on this crusty old pervert.

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                                    • I ilandar@lemmy.today

                                      I didn't share the article.

                                      MarshezezzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Marshezezz
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                                      Well that’s great, thanks for the interaction. I learned absolutely nothing about the perspective from you.

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                                        I am conflicted. I don't know what I want out of this movie. I don't want anything at all that casts a positive light on child rapist Roman Polanski, yet I want to respect Ms. Geimer's wishes and see that if anyone profits from all this that it be her, yet I can't help but feel like this is still somehow exploiting her.

                                        What I really want is for France and the film industry worldwide to stop pandering to this admitted child rapist. So many interesting voices out there and we have to waste even a moment's thought on this crusty old pervert.

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                                        anonymous65537@lemmy.world
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                                        Is a movie really necessary? This is pure voyeurism.

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                                        • breakfastmtnB breakfastmtn

                                          The Girl, based on Samantha Geimer’s memoir, will revisit ‘one of Hollywood’s most notorious scandals through the eyes of the person most misrepresented by it’

                                          A new movie will explore the notorious Roman Polanski statutory rape scandal from the perspective of the 13-year-old girl, Samantha Geimer.

                                          The Girl, based on Geimer’s 2013 memoir The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski, will trace her time in the famous director’s orbit in the 1970s, her experience being subjected to sexual assault and the media maelstrom that followed after Polanski, then 43, was arrested in 1977 on charges of statutory rape and lewd and lascivious act with a child.

                                          Polanski, the acclaimed director of such films as Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, admitted to statutory rape in a plea bargain to avoid more serious charges, but fled to France the following year after serving 42 days in jail. He has been a fugitive from the US ever since.

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                                          melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                                          In the new america it is more confusing as to who the victim is.

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