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About decentralised storage of fediverse data.

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  • poVoqP poVoq

    Its is commonly done with S3 compatible storage, and projects like Garage allow to do so in a distributed way.

    Neither Bittorrent or IPFS seem particularly well suited for this.

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    rglullis@communick.news
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    projects like Garage allow to do so in a distributed way.

    Really? Does this mean that different instances could share a bucket? Do they have to trust each other? I'll have to jump off the minio train anyway, if you have any tips to get this going would be nice.

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    • squirrelS squirrel

      Holos are building something where the data is stored on your phone instead of the server.

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      cinoreus@lemmy.world
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      Thanks! I'll check it out.

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      • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

        Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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        Off of what servers? Fediverse data is already archived across thousands of servers through federation.

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        • artyomA artyom

          Off of what servers? Fediverse data is already archived across thousands of servers through federation.

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          cinoreus@lemmy.world
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          Servers like centralised data storage

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          • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

            Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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            internetcitizen2@lemmy.world
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            I've always liked to think of torrenting as decentralized cloud

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            • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

              Servers like centralised data storage

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              rako
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              Centralized where ? Each instance is autonomous and independent

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                Centralized where ? Each instance is autonomous and independent

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                cinoreus@lemmy.world
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                Fediverse is still federated. I was talking about storing data decentralised, like using ipfs

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                • rglullis@communick.newsR rglullis@communick.news

                  projects like Garage allow to do so in a distributed way.

                  Really? Does this mean that different instances could share a bucket? Do they have to trust each other? I'll have to jump off the minio train anyway, if you have any tips to get this going would be nice.

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                  poVoq
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                  Garage has deduplication of all files, yes. Obviously if you host something on server not under your control you have to have a certain trust in them. Generally speaking Garage seems to be a good replacement for Minio, but I don't have any direct tips for migrating.

                  There was also a project for Mastodon to sit between it and any S3 storage that would allow sharing and deduplicating files between instances, but I can't find it right now and forgot the name. But it seemed stuck in a rewrite and not actively developed outside of that.

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                  • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

                    Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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                    squirrel
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                    PeerTube is using Webtorrent to distribute the load to all viewers that currently watch the video. And if you host a PeerTube instance you can manually mirror videos on your instance that are hosted on other PeerTube instances.

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                    • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

                      Fediverse is still federated. I was talking about storing data decentralised, like using ipfs

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                      rako
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                      Yeah but "decentalised" here is not clear. Do you mean a storage that is not controlled by the instance ?

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                      • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

                        Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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                        mesa
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                        Big old flash drive.

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                        • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

                          Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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                          jayjader@jlai.lu
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                          I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, OP, but I do know of https://activitypods.org/.

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                          • mesaM mesa

                            Big old flash drive.

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                            burgermeister@sh.itjust.works
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                            USB 2.0, so they're cheap and you can RAID 'em.

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                              Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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                              riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
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                              What do you mean by fediverse data?

                              What problem are you trying to solve that isn't solved by BitTorrent and IPFS?

                              The nice thing about the fediverse is that it's largely a concept with a few common protocols to make interoperability easier, you can solve pretty much any problem in line with the fediverse, but you do actually need a problem to solve.

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