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'Go Back and Play Morrowind and Tell Me That's the Game You Want to Play Again' — Former Bethesda Veteran Delivers His Verdict on Potential The Elder Scrolls Remasters - IGN

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    Ephera
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    Ragebait headline. The guy does say that a proper remake or a new game set in the Morrowind region could be good. Just a remaster like the Oblivion remaster, with modern graphics slapped onto the original gameplay wouldn't work too well.

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    • OmegaO Omega

      The combat is great. It just doesn't sit right with people that it's not as action RPG as it looks (swing and miss) and it never tells you how important stamina (fatigue) is.

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      zahille7@lemmy.world
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      Idk, there's the loading screen tips, one in particular says "if you're entering a new or strange area, be sure to walk to conserve fatigue" or something along those lines.

      Maybe an NPC tells you in Seyda Neen?

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      • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

        I meant in video games, of course. In films there are a ton of examples. I usually go for Ingrid Bergman's accent in the Murder on the Orient Express movie, although that one - while accurate - is slightly exaggerated for effect, I think.

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        Leon
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        It’s not like Bethesda couldn’t afford to hire Nordic voice actors. They just chose not to do so.

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        • NoxyN Noxy

          I have played Morrowind many many many, many times. hell I've played multiplayer Morrowind a few times

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          thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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          I regret not to have played these Elder Scrolls games when they were new. These are really special games. At the time, I wasn't a fan of western RPGs and leaned heavily into JRPGs. But man, I regret it.

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            mist101@lemmy.world
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            Is this the same guy perineum who told WoW players they didn't want to play the original?

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            • Z zahille7@lemmy.world

              Lol that's not the gotcha he thinks it is.

              So many, and I mean thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of players/Elder Scrolls fans would give up their left testicle just for a true Morrowind remaster. Like honestly, so many people have a love and fondness for that game, even if it wasn't their first ES title, that I truly believe almost everyone would tell him he's wrong.

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              paultimate14@lemmy.world
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              Morrowind only sold ~4 million units. I think you're overestimating how big the fan base is. The fan base is loyal, opinionated, and vocal, but small.

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              • S supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz

                The gameplay sucked but what makes Morrowind a far superior game to Skyrim and Oblivion is Morrowind is weird.

                Bethesda is only capable of making boring big budget fantasy epic setpieces these days, gone is the feeling of going into a random shop and reading a random book, gone is the feeling of "what the hell is over the next hill!?".

                You always know what you are going to get with Bethesda, they won't take ANY risks. Bethesda will never again present a vision of fantasy that doesn't simply meet the expectations of well worn fantasy tropes, as far as they are concerned that would be bad for business to do otherwise.

                If you showed me of a picture of dragon from Skyrim, a dragon from Harry Potter and a dragon from Lord Of The Rings I don't think I could tell them apart, the same cannot be said for almost any aspect of Morrowind down to basic things like the architecture of its buildings.

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                Goodeye8
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                I don't think it's just because it's weird. It's because it's weird and immersive. Part of what makes it so immersive is that there's no modern fast travel. There are in game fast travel options but they can only get you to major settlements, or fortresses that you've found and cleared, or whatever point you've marked that you can use the recall spell to. Beyond that your on your own two feet. You want to get to the Urshilaku camp? Better start walking because you can't fast travel there. And at the start of the game you're slow as fuck. I still remember it being quite an adventure to get from Seyda Neen to Balmora on foot.

                And that's to not even mention the quests. I don't wish the for the Morrowind style journal, but the quests didn't have a huge waypoint telling you exactly where to go. If you wanted to know where you had to go you had to listen to the directions you were given and then actually try to follow them. One of my more memorable side quests from Morrowind was where I misunderstood the directions, took the wrong left turn and kept searching for a farm almost all the way to Caldera. The actual farm was pretty much just around the corner had I taken the right turn. I don't even remember what the quest itself was about. I only remember getting lost.

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                • A adulated_aspersion@lemmy.world

                  Elder Scrolls 1 or 2? Abso-fucking-lutely not.

                  Elder Scrolls 3+? Hell yes.

                  Elder Scrolls 6 would be the release that I much prefer.

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                  zikzak025@lemmy.world
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                  I think if they did a ground-up remake/reimagining of Arena or Daggerfall, it could still be compelling. Not a simple remaster, though.

                  That being said, there is apparently a Unity port of Daggerfall that appears quite decent, and goes a long way towards modernizing an otherwise ancient game.

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                    #37

                    Ok I did. And I'll play it again, too. It was the best Elder Scrolls game to date.

                    The only thing that could make it better is updated visuals, better combat, and NPCs that actually move around and have schedules.

                    Oblivion and Skyrim have slightly better combat, better visuals, and NPCs that walk around. And nothing else that made Morrowind so fucking good. Let Kirkbride write more than 1 or 2 quest lines, god damn it.

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                    • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlT thingsiplay@lemmy.ml

                      I regret not to have played these Elder Scrolls games when they were new. These are really special games. At the time, I wasn't a fan of western RPGs and leaned heavily into JRPGs. But man, I regret it.

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                      Noxy
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                      Morrowind is undoubtedly better today than when it was released. The thousands and thousands of mods, thundreds of mod lists, dozens of tools, and hell even the complete, open source, crossplatform reimplementation of the core game engine and its crazy good multiplayer fork, all add up to today being an even better time to experience the game and the community!

                      I highly recommend picking up the base game and then playing it through OpenMW, with minimal mods the first playthrough (tho unofficual bugfix patch and the like are still probably a good idea)

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                      • NoxyN Noxy

                        Morrowind is undoubtedly better today than when it was released. The thousands and thousands of mods, thundreds of mod lists, dozens of tools, and hell even the complete, open source, crossplatform reimplementation of the core game engine and its crazy good multiplayer fork, all add up to today being an even better time to experience the game and the community!

                        I highly recommend picking up the base game and then playing it through OpenMW, with minimal mods the first playthrough (tho unofficual bugfix patch and the like are still probably a good idea)

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                        morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
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                        The "I Heart Vanilla" pack is supposed to be good for that, I run with Just Good Morrowind, plays extremely well on the steamdeck too.

                        It's still by far my favourite of the series.

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                        • A athatet@lemmy.zip

                          I have gone back and played Morrowind. Multiple times. Because it is, in fact, a game I want to play again.

                          It’s almost like that’s the reason people are asking for a remaster.

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                          marlowe221@lemmy.world
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                          Yeah, Morrowind is my favorite game of all time.

                          These days I play it with higher res textures and a mod to make the wildlife less insanely hostile via the excellent OpenMW.

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                            passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                            Yes, I do, and I have recently. Next question!

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                            • Z zikzak025@lemmy.world

                              I think if they did a ground-up remake/reimagining of Arena or Daggerfall, it could still be compelling. Not a simple remaster, though.

                              That being said, there is apparently a Unity port of Daggerfall that appears quite decent, and goes a long way towards modernizing an otherwise ancient game.

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                              marlowe221@lemmy.world
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                              The Daggerfall remake is more of a source port…. But it’s amazing.

                              Daggerfall needs a certain degree of modding but the source port makes it super easy to install mods for it.

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                              • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                                If they don’t have the code anymore they could just fund OpenMW with 100k $ and take that.

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                                evil_shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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                                It's already extremely good and basically finished.

                                But now each minor new version of the engine would be a new re-release of the game.

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                                • P ParlimentOfDoom

                                  Yes, please stop asking for remakes or reboots or rereleases. There hasn't been a AAA game I've cared about in years. It's all derivative shit.

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                                  zexks@lemmy.world
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                                  Everything is derivitive if your pedantic enough

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                                    scio@lemmy.world
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                                    I sure would. And I didn't even want to play Skyrim all the way through the first time.

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                                    • P paultimate14@lemmy.world

                                      Morrowind only sold ~4 million units. I think you're overestimating how big the fan base is. The fan base is loyal, opinionated, and vocal, but small.

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                                      zahille7@lemmy.world
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                                      As of 2010 according to your link. And that was before it went digital/backwards compatible on Xbox One with a whole announcement.

                                      I know I bought it for my One as soon as I could back in 2018. And I bought it at least one other time since, when I got my PC.

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                                      • A athatet@lemmy.zip

                                        I have gone back and played Morrowind. Multiple times. Because it is, in fact, a game I want to play again.

                                        It’s almost like that’s the reason people are asking for a remaster.

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                                        bigbananadealer@lemmy.world
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                                        did you read the article

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                                          Ok I did. And I'll play it again, too. It was the best Elder Scrolls game to date.

                                          The only thing that could make it better is updated visuals, better combat, and NPCs that actually move around and have schedules.

                                          Oblivion and Skyrim have slightly better combat, better visuals, and NPCs that walk around. And nothing else that made Morrowind so fucking good. Let Kirkbride write more than 1 or 2 quest lines, god damn it.

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                                          kureta@lemmy.ml
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                                          Morrowind was my favorite. I couldn't play Oblivion for more than an hour and I have tried multiple times over the years. Something about that game just bores me to death. Skyrim was good though, after getting some used to.

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