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  3. Trying to go "open source" is so infuriating. LineageOS results in no cellular data connection (Can't figure out APN Stuff), and trying to restore Motorola's Factory ROM requires windows...

Trying to go "open source" is so infuriating. LineageOS results in no cellular data connection (Can't figure out APN Stuff), and trying to restore Motorola's Factory ROM requires windows...

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  • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D This user is from outside of this forum
    「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D This user is from outside of this forum
    「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

    Idk wtf I'm doing

    Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

    Too noob to do this nerd stuff

    V maifeierlander@slrpnk.netM KraidenK Lvxferre [he/him]L LibbL 8 Replies Last reply
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    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

      Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

      Idk wtf I'm doing

      Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

      Too noob to do this nerd stuff

      V This user is from outside of this forum
      V This user is from outside of this forum
      vatlark@lemmy.world
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      You got this!

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      • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

        Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

        Idk wtf I'm doing

        Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

        Too noob to do this nerd stuff

        maifeierlander@slrpnk.netM This user is from outside of this forum
        maifeierlander@slrpnk.netM This user is from outside of this forum
        maifeierlander@slrpnk.net
        wrote last edited by maifeierlander@slrpnk.net
        #3

        Yeah LineageOS tends to be hit or miss, the project is maintained by volunteers so dont have high expectations.

        I had a Xiaomi phone for where phone calls were very laggy on LineageOS. I'm currently on OnePlus Nord CE 3 Lite 5g using LineageOS and works wonderfully. To avoid ending up in situation where LineageOS doesn't work, next time look up info about a particular phone: XDA forums are good.

        If you ever can, I'd recommend GrapheneOS as it has best functionality.

        Edit: a word

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        • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

          Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

          Idk wtf I'm doing

          Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

          Too noob to do this nerd stuff

          KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
          KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
          Kraiden
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          Everyone is a noob at first. Stick with it! and good on you for giving it a go!

          You're braver than me. I desperately want to degoogle, but my phone is everything. If it doesn't work, my life doesn't function. As a result I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Too scared.

          I'm taking it one step at a time. I've cut Windows out. That's enough for now. My plan next is to do away with Gmail and drive, but honestly that's gonna be harder. I have an annoyingly complicated email and cloud set up and I don't know where to start.

          Oh, and I'm a professional software developer, so give yourself a break

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          • KraidenK Kraiden

            Everyone is a noob at first. Stick with it! and good on you for giving it a go!

            You're braver than me. I desperately want to degoogle, but my phone is everything. If it doesn't work, my life doesn't function. As a result I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Too scared.

            I'm taking it one step at a time. I've cut Windows out. That's enough for now. My plan next is to do away with Gmail and drive, but honestly that's gonna be harder. I have an annoyingly complicated email and cloud set up and I don't know where to start.

            Oh, and I'm a professional software developer, so give yourself a break

            LumpyPancakesB This user is from outside of this forum
            LumpyPancakesB This user is from outside of this forum
            LumpyPancakes
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            Why not have two phones? I do that so I have a warm spare in case I break one.

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            • LumpyPancakesB LumpyPancakes

              Why not have two phones? I do that so I have a warm spare in case I break one.

              KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
              KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
              Kraiden
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              I have a Fold 6 with an xteink x4 attached to the back of it. My pockets are stretched as it is!

              But ye I'll probably do this when I'm ready to switch. I'm waiting for a really solid true Linux phone first though

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              • KraidenK Kraiden

                I have a Fold 6 with an xteink x4 attached to the back of it. My pockets are stretched as it is!

                But ye I'll probably do this when I'm ready to switch. I'm waiting for a really solid true Linux phone first though

                LumpyPancakesB This user is from outside of this forum
                LumpyPancakesB This user is from outside of this forum
                LumpyPancakes
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                Reminds me of when the original Galaxy Tab 7 was my only phone. It was chunky but still fit pockets somehow. Was comically large but a good piece of kit back then.

                Your combo sounds more lumpy.

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                • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

                  Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

                  Idk wtf I'm doing

                  Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                  Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                  Lvxferre [he/him]L This user is from outside of this forum
                  Lvxferre [he/him]L This user is from outside of this forum
                  Lvxferre [he/him]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  My first time using Linux was a trainwreck. I was 17; I couldn't make tails from heads from what I was dealing with.

                  Meme showing a golden retriever dog wearing a necktie, with the paws over the keyboard of a computer, staring the screen. The dog wears a necktie. The words "I have no idea what I'm doing" appear on the pic.

                  I eventually said "screw it", reinstalled Windows XP, and forgot about it for two? three? years. Then I tried it again, with a different distro, and now I struggle to use Windows because I kind of forgot how to do it.

                  My point is, it gets easier with time. And often your first choice is a really good distro, but not really good for newcomers, you know? I know, you're talking about phones instead of desktops, but it's the same principle. It's fine to try another system like GrapheneOS, or to stick with LineageOS and see how it goes.

                  It will still require you some learning. Including sometimes copypasting what random people on the internet say. But it gets easier over time.

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                  • LumpyPancakesB LumpyPancakes

                    Reminds me of when the original Galaxy Tab 7 was my only phone. It was chunky but still fit pockets somehow. Was comically large but a good piece of kit back then.

                    Your combo sounds more lumpy.

                    KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
                    KraidenK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Kraiden
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    it gets worse, I've got one of those chonky dbrand cases too 😅 It's a brick and weighs a ton!

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                    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

                      Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

                      Idk wtf I'm doing

                      Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                      Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                      LibbL This user is from outside of this forum
                      LibbL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Libb
                      wrote last edited by libb@piefed.social
                      #10

                      Idk wtf I’m doing

                      That may be an issue. But you're also right, there is a lot of learning and trial and error involved. There is also a lot of... outdated info available online, which doesn't help either. Not just for phones.

                      Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                      Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                      I'm old-ish (nearing 60), not much of a geek (I've been using computers since the early 80s but have been an Apple user all my life only switching 5 or so years ago... and I've been using Linux daily without any issue. Like, none.

                      I do use the Terminal on my computer, that's true, but that's also because I want to use it, not because I have to.

                      It's an impressively efficient tool, even for a timid user like myself with basic needs. Once I started using it, after a few... epic failures, there was no turning back and I was hooked to its efficiency.

                      Heck, I even use it to read RSS, to listen to music, podcast and movies (thx to mpv), to watch YT video too. As well as to publish stuff on my blog and, since very recently, on Mastodon too. I've never learned to code, I just asked questions, read documentations and become ok with things not working as I wanted them to at the first attempt 😉

                      But I have a trick to make my life simpler and stress-free: I only deal with what I know I can handle. And there is a lot I know I can't.

                      For example, I would love to be able to run a de-googled android on my phone but I also know I need access to a few selected apps that won't work as easily without Google's crap. They may work but it may involves a lot of hunting and trials. Which is not what I want to do on a phone. As a matter of fact, the only reason I own a smartphone is because I need to access those few apps, there is nothing else installed on it, not even games, music. Nothing. So, until the day I know for sure there is an easy way to run those (few) apps without using Google official crappy spyware-riddled Android, I don't try.

                      Meanwhile, I can enjoy a great experience using Libre Software everywhere else I can, which is everywhere else 😉

                      Edit: typos.

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                      • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

                        Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

                        Idk wtf I'm doing

                        Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                        Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                        H This user is from outside of this forum
                        H This user is from outside of this forum
                        hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        which device? is it officially supported by lineageos?

                        it is indeed quite harder than using stock rom, if the stock rom isn't garbage (unlike samsung) you could just root and debloat stock too.

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                        • LumpyPancakesB LumpyPancakes

                          Why not have two phones? I do that so I have a warm spare in case I break one.

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                          standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          Gotta have two phones one for the plug and one for the hoes

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                          • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

                            Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

                            Idk wtf I'm doing

                            Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                            Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                            gedaliyahG This user is from outside of this forum
                            gedaliyahG This user is from outside of this forum
                            gedaliyah
                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            There is a learning curve, and different people have different approaches. Yours is to dive in, which means you will learn a lot quickly. I always go too slow and do a lot of smaller experiments along the way. I make fewer major mistakes, but am slow to adopt new software.

                            You will make it through this frustration and be actually helping others figure things out before you know it.

                            Don't worry about the copying and pasting. Strangers on the internet care more about your success and well being than corporations anyway. I've been involved with the open source community for decades in one way or another and I have never - not once - encountered malicious code in a support forum.

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                            • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)D 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」 | (aka: 鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma)

                              Literally every time I use Open Source stuff, I get a massive headache.

                              Idk wtf I'm doing

                              Every little problem requires copy-pasting stuff from a random stranger on a forum.

                              Too noob to do this nerd stuff

                              H This user is from outside of this forum
                              H This user is from outside of this forum
                              h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              It really depends on the field of open source software you're in. Custom roms and modding of devices in general is always pretty community dependent. The reason for that is the variety of hardware additional to the missing specification and sometimes missing standardisation from the vendors. It's one of the harder fields to get your hands on if you want things to just-work. The software often gives you the ability to configure the things vendors hide but on the other hand also expects you to do it manually. But don't give up, most of the times it gets better after you passed the first few hurdles and got a little more knowledge in the field you're in.

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