What principles you wish to see social networks (or the fediverse) adopt in their design?
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For example, for me, here are some things I wish to see (or would implement in my design) :
- design around ease of self-hosting. A non technical user must be able to self host easily and at a very low cost.
- Embrace content sorting and filtering algorithms, but on the client side, with optional control by the user.
- Standardize tags on all content. So many of the different ways different platforms classify or organize content can be implemented as tags, which increases interoperability between them.
- Abandon obsession with real-time-first implementations for use cases that don't explicitly need it.
- Transferable user identity (between instances)
- User identity and authentication as separate service from social network instance
Would love to hear yours!
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For example, for me, here are some things I wish to see (or would implement in my design) :
- design around ease of self-hosting. A non technical user must be able to self host easily and at a very low cost.
- Embrace content sorting and filtering algorithms, but on the client side, with optional control by the user.
- Standardize tags on all content. So many of the different ways different platforms classify or organize content can be implemented as tags, which increases interoperability between them.
- Abandon obsession with real-time-first implementations for use cases that don't explicitly need it.
- Transferable user identity (between instances)
- User identity and authentication as separate service from social network instance
Would love to hear yours!
1.- and I'm going to emphasize this a lot.
PAGING
(or at least some concept in the vein of "show only a finite amount of information at a time")
Lemmy does it well, but Mastodon sorely requires it for example. Anything that induces the pattern of autorefreshing, auto-filling, constantly changing timelines only empahsizes the addictions that antisocial media is working with already.
2.- More and better reactions than simply "upvote" and "downvote".
A upvote or a downvote can mean things in different categories, from "I don't like this" to "this is uninformative" to "this is misinformative!" to "enough Musk spam!". Condensing and factoring such results into how threads are found and sorted artificiates any or all of popularity, consensus and usefulness. So, being able to "react" (add a singular tag to a message without the need for a reply) to a message with more options than "upvote" and "downvote" would be useful. I'd count at least three axis (axeses? switchaxes?) that are useful to gauge: "agree - disagree", "informational - misinformational" and "verified - debunked".
3.- Global, or at least shareable and moveable, user identity. Won't comment on this more because others already cover it enough.
4.- Fucking decouple instance identity from DNS. DNS is the layer that big corpo will rein in next, depending on it to validate who an instance is is playing an eventually loser game.
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1.- and I'm going to emphasize this a lot.
PAGING
(or at least some concept in the vein of "show only a finite amount of information at a time")
Lemmy does it well, but Mastodon sorely requires it for example. Anything that induces the pattern of autorefreshing, auto-filling, constantly changing timelines only empahsizes the addictions that antisocial media is working with already.
2.- More and better reactions than simply "upvote" and "downvote".
A upvote or a downvote can mean things in different categories, from "I don't like this" to "this is uninformative" to "this is misinformative!" to "enough Musk spam!". Condensing and factoring such results into how threads are found and sorted artificiates any or all of popularity, consensus and usefulness. So, being able to "react" (add a singular tag to a message without the need for a reply) to a message with more options than "upvote" and "downvote" would be useful. I'd count at least three axis (axeses? switchaxes?) that are useful to gauge: "agree - disagree", "informational - misinformational" and "verified - debunked".
3.- Global, or at least shareable and moveable, user identity. Won't comment on this more because others already cover it enough.
4.- Fucking decouple instance identity from DNS. DNS is the layer that big corpo will rein in next, depending on it to validate who an instance is is playing an eventually loser game.
I'm so far paging, and it's so annoying this isn't the default design on the fediverse.
On 4, I also agree, but what's the best alternative?
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For example, for me, here are some things I wish to see (or would implement in my design) :
- design around ease of self-hosting. A non technical user must be able to self host easily and at a very low cost.
- Embrace content sorting and filtering algorithms, but on the client side, with optional control by the user.
- Standardize tags on all content. So many of the different ways different platforms classify or organize content can be implemented as tags, which increases interoperability between them.
- Abandon obsession with real-time-first implementations for use cases that don't explicitly need it.
- Transferable user identity (between instances)
- User identity and authentication as separate service from social network instance
Would love to hear yours!
Fun and weird ways of using the internet socially. Fediverse has the unique opportunity that you can build anything and automatically reach people. I'd like to see people really push the idea of what a social platform looks and acts like.
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Fun and weird ways of using the internet socially. Fediverse has the unique opportunity that you can build anything and automatically reach people. I'd like to see people really push the idea of what a social platform looks and acts like.
Can you give examples ? That's partly why I ask this question.
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I'm so far paging, and it's so annoying this isn't the default design on the fediverse.
On 4, I also agree, but what's the best alternative?
On 4, I also agree, but what’s the best alternative?
Fuck if I know, tbh. Whatever i2p and/or IPFS are doing, I guess? While removing a central authority is a good idea, I think the more pressing matter is to remove external authority. DNS registrars are not part of the fediverse in terms of being community or people, and thus are a notorious weak point.
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Fun and weird ways of using the internet socially. Fediverse has the unique opportunity that you can build anything and automatically reach people. I'd like to see people really push the idea of what a social platform looks and acts like.
Misskey?
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Can you give examples ? That's partly why I ask this question.
Ive got ideas in my mind but its hard to put them into realistic ideas of a site.
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Misskey?
I havent found an English misskey instance so I havent been able to really try it out. At a glance it seems similar to mastodon
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I havent found an English misskey instance so I havent been able to really try it out. At a glance it seems similar to mastodon
Most of English instance are using Misskey-fork named Sharkey.
Misskey itself has tons of unique features that Mastodon don't have, like threaded discussion/reply, Misskey games (only two for now), custom interface, emoji reaction like Discord/Slack.
