What is the actual worst TV series you've ever tried to seriously engage with?
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
Nah, he did. But the writers and characters are aware of that. His eventual willingness to compromise his values for the greater good is very on-topic for the themes of the series.
:::Manousos? Compromised his values?
Do you mean him talking to the hive at the end?
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I don't mean stuff that was obviously bad on sight (to you) and so you didn't bother with, or even necessarily content you just checked out of before the first episode was done. But a series that you ultimately felt wasted your time and abandoned due to its total lack of quality.
Under The Dome. Terrific Stephen King epic, with a huge cast of characters, including one of his best villains, and I was really looking forward to the series.
It opened okay, and they did a good job of showing the Dome coming down, but a few episodes in they introduced some weird supernatural nonsense that didn't exist in the original, and I was out.
It really pissed me off. It was a great story, all they had to do was tell it, but they had to get "creative" and fuck it up.
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I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
You skipped the first 2 episodes?
The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
What? Manousos? No he didn't.
The "Spanish dude" tells a lot about the amount of attention/analysis they put into it. I'm also bad at remembering names but.. Spanish?
A lot of the "meaning" in Pluribus is in the details imo. Facial expressions, silent scenes, little choices in the acting, direction, cinematography. Also not saying that it's the most sublime expression of art in the history of cinema, just that I believe most people that found it "boring" just didn't really watch it
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Add a fucking spoiler warning, I'm only on book 7!
Fucking damn it! Here I was thinking Taim would turn out to be Demandred. Fuck!
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills
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Firefly
There are worse shows, but this was one of the first where I should have liked everything about it, but instead I hated the campiness.
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Blood and bloody ashes!
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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He took the ambulance and wrote down in the hospital that he owed them.
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So him talking to the hive as a means to understand how to defeat them, because Carol suggested he finally do so is somehow compromising his values? Should people never ever change or adapt to anything ever?
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Obi Wan. Mandalorian was a little disappointing but cool and zeitgeisty, Boba Fett was worse, then the Obi Wan show was just unwatchable. Which is weird because Andor was so much better than it had any right to be.
Obi Wank Enobi
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No. I was out the second a robot murdered someone.
I, Robot was a better adaptation of Asimov.
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Andor. I still have yet to finish the first season. It's ok. It insists on itself. While the premise isn't bad, and the story is ok. I just cannot get into it.
Honestly, I can understand that opinion. The first half wasn't great; all the critical acclaim was about the 2nd half of the season.
If you didn't get to the part with the prison, maybe go back and try to stick it out. That's where it really picks up
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No. I was out the second a robot murdered someone.
I, Robot was a better adaptation of Asimov.
Are there any good adaptations of Asimov besides Fantastic Voyage and Bicentennial Man?
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Under The Dome. Terrific Stephen King epic, with a huge cast of characters, including one of his best villains, and I was really looking forward to the series.
It opened okay, and they did a good job of showing the Dome coming down, but a few episodes in they introduced some weird supernatural nonsense that didn't exist in the original, and I was out.
It really pissed me off. It was a great story, all they had to do was tell it, but they had to get "creative" and fuck it up.
I've heard it was only supposed to be a mini series. About 4 episodes. But then the studio noticed the buzz after it was announced and they told the production team to turn it into a running series, which is why it got padded with extra story elements and stretched out.
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I've heard it was only supposed to be a mini series. About 4 episodes. But then the studio noticed the buzz after it was announced and they told the production team to turn it into a running series, which is why it got padded with extra story elements and stretched out.
They flogged it for 3 seasons.
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but I have a pet peeve about plots driven forward by stupid characters making obviously stupid decisions (Jesse Pinkman in this case)
Do you remember what decision that was? One of the things I really like about BB is that every character behaves fairly sensibly and realistically, so I'm a bit surprised.
Also by the end of the show, Jesse is one of the only characters making sense. I'd argue he does start there (not sure of the specifics they're referring to), but his character dynamics with the world and Walt sort of flip.
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Foundation. holy shit. what a trash heap.
the visuals are great though. maybe i'll cut out all closups of actors and use it as animated wallpaper or something.
Nooooo, I wanted to watch that! I wish we could have some good Asimov media.
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...why would you start in the middle of a season?
by watching RLM video about the show, I already knew the premise. Plus I like to start in the middle, when things are ramping up, instead of the beginning, where they have to put everything in place... If I like it I might watch the previous episode, for this one I didnt care.
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Oh my gosh, yes! As a fan of the books, I was so excited for the series. I was determined not to be put off by the changes to the story the producers made, so it took me a while to realize that the changed story lacked something. Like, being good? I should've just stopped after the terrorist attack that killed nobody, or tens of millions of people maybe, in the first episode just to advance the plot. Great visual effects, no emotional resonance. Why should I care? Nobody on-screen seemed to. I stuck it out until the episode that ended with the one character getting surrounded by the Anacreon landing party, but the show never established why I should care about her. So I didn't, and never bothered with the next episode to resolve the cliff-hanger.
Did you like the Cleon-Empire plot?
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Kind of not answering the question but I still feel it applies.
The whole premise of Suits was bullshit and meant while I enjoyed the show I was constantly getting pissed off by the "Mikes Secret" storyline.
Definitely one of the most prestigious law firms in New York, Almost certainly the country and known worldwide is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NEVER going to knowingly hire someone without a law degree and allow them to practice law not even if that man is the smartest legal mind alive.
It's kind of hard to go back to USA network shows from the time. Except for Psych. I'll always be here for Psych.
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I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
You skipped the first 2 episodes?
The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
What? Manousos? No he didn't.
he went from not addressing the HiveMind, to the point of dying, and finish by talking and demanding stuff to them out of the blue.
Either, he was a man of principle, and should stand by them no matter what. When he reconsidered his principle super fast, then he make it clear he was very dumb at the beginning with his non compromise stance.
