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What is the actual worst TV series you've ever tried to seriously engage with?

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  • A adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca

    Firefly

    There are worse shows, but this was one of the first where I should have liked everything about it, but instead I hated the campiness.

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    white_nrdy@programming.dev
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      The wheel weaves as the wheel wills

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      wonderingwanderer
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      Blood and bloody ashes!

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      • S Skavau

        Manousos? Compromised his values?

        Do you mean him talking to the hive at the end?

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        stray@pawb.social
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        ::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
        That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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        • S stray@pawb.social

          ::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
          That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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          Skavau
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          1. He took the ambulance and wrote down in the hospital that he owed them.

          2. So him talking to the hive as a means to understand how to defeat them, because Carol suggested he finally do so is somehow compromising his values? Should people never ever change or adapt to anything ever?

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          • N not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world

            Obi Wan. Mandalorian was a little disappointing but cool and zeitgeisty, Boba Fett was worse, then the Obi Wan show was just unwatchable. Which is weird because Andor was so much better than it had any right to be.

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            damiengramatacus@lemmy.world
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            Obi Wank Enobi

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            • S Skavau

              You didn't even like the Empire Plot? How far did you get?

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              rampantparanoia2365@lemmy.world
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              #100

              No. I was out the second a robot murdered someone.

              I, Robot was a better adaptation of Asimov.

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                Andor. I still have yet to finish the first season. It's ok. It insists on itself. While the premise isn't bad, and the story is ok. I just cannot get into it.

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                cort@lemmy.world
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                Honestly, I can understand that opinion. The first half wasn't great; all the critical acclaim was about the 2nd half of the season.

                If you didn't get to the part with the prison, maybe go back and try to stick it out. That's where it really picks up

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                • R rampantparanoia2365@lemmy.world

                  No. I was out the second a robot murdered someone.

                  I, Robot was a better adaptation of Asimov.

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                  ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                  Are there any good adaptations of Asimov besides Fantastic Voyage and Bicentennial Man?

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                  • B barneypiccolo@lemmy.today

                    Under The Dome. Terrific Stephen King epic, with a huge cast of characters, including one of his best villains, and I was really looking forward to the series.

                    It opened okay, and they did a good job of showing the Dome coming down, but a few episodes in they introduced some weird supernatural nonsense that didn't exist in the original, and I was out.

                    It really pissed me off. It was a great story, all they had to do was tell it, but they had to get "creative" and fuck it up.

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                    couldbealeotard@lemmy.world
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                    I've heard it was only supposed to be a mini series. About 4 episodes. But then the studio noticed the buzz after it was announced and they told the production team to turn it into a running series, which is why it got padded with extra story elements and stretched out.

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                    • couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldC couldbealeotard@lemmy.world

                      I've heard it was only supposed to be a mini series. About 4 episodes. But then the studio noticed the buzz after it was announced and they told the production team to turn it into a running series, which is why it got padded with extra story elements and stretched out.

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                      barneypiccolo@lemmy.today
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                      They flogged it for 3 seasons.

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                      • F foobarrington@lemmy.world

                        but I have a pet peeve about plots driven forward by stupid characters making obviously stupid decisions (Jesse Pinkman in this case)

                        Do you remember what decision that was? One of the things I really like about BB is that every character behaves fairly sensibly and realistically, so I'm a bit surprised.

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                        degen@midwest.social
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                        Also by the end of the show, Jesse is one of the only characters making sense. I'd argue he does start there (not sure of the specifics they're referring to), but his character dynamics with the world and Walt sort of flip.

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                        • M mavu@discuss.tchncs.de

                          Foundation. holy shit. what a trash heap.

                          the visuals are great though. maybe i'll cut out all closups of actors and use it as animated wallpaper or something.

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                          degen@midwest.social
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                          Nooooo, I wanted to watch that! I wish we could have some good Asimov media.

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                          • S stamau123@lemmy.world

                            ...why would you start in the middle of a season?

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                            ooli3@sopuli.xyz
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                            by watching RLM video about the show, I already knew the premise. Plus I like to start in the middle, when things are ramping up, instead of the beginning, where they have to put everything in place... If I like it I might watch the previous episode, for this one I didnt care.

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                            • S swingingthelamp@midwest.social

                              Oh my gosh, yes! As a fan of the books, I was so excited for the series. I was determined not to be put off by the changes to the story the producers made, so it took me a while to realize that the changed story lacked something. Like, being good? I should've just stopped after the terrorist attack that killed nobody, or tens of millions of people maybe, in the first episode just to advance the plot. Great visual effects, no emotional resonance. Why should I care? Nobody on-screen seemed to. I stuck it out until the episode that ended with the one character getting surrounded by the Anacreon landing party, but the show never established why I should care about her. So I didn't, and never bothered with the next episode to resolve the cliff-hanger.

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                              Skavau
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                              Did you like the Cleon-Empire plot?

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                              • D delphia@lemmy.world

                                Kind of not answering the question but I still feel it applies.

                                The whole premise of Suits was bullshit and meant while I enjoyed the show I was constantly getting pissed off by the "Mikes Secret" storyline.

                                Definitely one of the most prestigious law firms in New York, Almost certainly the country and known worldwide is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NEVER going to knowingly hire someone without a law degree and allow them to practice law not even if that man is the smartest legal mind alive.

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                                degen@midwest.social
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                                It's kind of hard to go back to USA network shows from the time. Except for Psych. I'll always be here for Psych.

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                                  I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.

                                  You skipped the first 2 episodes?

                                  The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.

                                  What? Manousos? No he didn't.

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                                  ooli3@sopuli.xyz
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                                  he went from not addressing the HiveMind, to the point of dying, and finish by talking and demanding stuff to them out of the blue.

                                  Either, he was a man of principle, and should stand by them no matter what. When he reconsidered his principle super fast, then he make it clear he was very dumb at the beginning with his non compromise stance.

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                                  • S scytale

                                    For me, it wasn’t even the children in adult bodies that were the problem. Kids are dumb, so their choices and the way they reacted to events could be given a pass. It’s how dumb the supposedly smart adults were that was the problem.

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                                    degen@midwest.social
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                                    The vibes are definitely different from Alien as a whole, but I liked the kids' roles in how the synths are portrayed, and really how the show develops the factions of immortality, murky ethicality, beings as superweapons, and psychology of the self, all with a more relatable setting of earth and (corporate) society.

                                    I get the qualms about it, but at the same time it seemed perfect to me in adding to the universe.

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                                    • C cort@lemmy.world

                                      Honestly, I can understand that opinion. The first half wasn't great; all the critical acclaim was about the 2nd half of the season.

                                      If you didn't get to the part with the prison, maybe go back and try to stick it out. That's where it really picks up

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                                      titanicx@lemmy.zip
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                                      That's actually exactly where I stopped watching it at was right before the whole prison scene. The whole first half of the season just drawn on and on and on. My girlfriend was incredibly excited to watch it she watched half of an episode and decided she was done. I've considered going back and rewatching it because I don't even remember most of what happened in it because it was that unmemorable for me.

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                                      • O ooli3@sopuli.xyz

                                        by watching RLM video about the show, I already knew the premise. Plus I like to start in the middle, when things are ramping up, instead of the beginning, where they have to put everything in place... If I like it I might watch the previous episode, for this one I didnt care.

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                                        You're an idiot. This series requires a fresh start. Your opinion is garbage.

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                                        • S Skavau

                                          I don't mean stuff that was obviously bad on sight (to you) and so you didn't bother with, or even necessarily content you just checked out of before the first episode was done. But a series that you ultimately felt wasted your time and abandoned due to its total lack of quality.

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                                          p00ptart@lemmy.world
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                                          The last ship. I loved it in the beginning. It started out as high quality drama/mystery. It had some issues but was overall really good. Or at least the concept was good enough to overlook issues. But then the issues backed up like a toilet. It got to the point where you're groaning multiple times an episode and the sparkle of the concept dies. I can't remember how far I got into the series, but it was somewhere early in season three. And I don't remember TOO much from it as I feel like I've blocked out most of it.

                                          They even brought in Tania Raymonde who I absolutely love, and I just couldn't. I hated how lazy and dumb the writing turned and how quickly it happened. It should have been more of an exploratory show than action/drama. Like, it should have been about trying to find peoples and encounter new groups to vaccinate, and less about having all these big bads. Yeah some small time bad guys should be there time to time, but it should have been more like the first Star Trek series and less like the walking dead. "God damnit, that guy again?"

                                          And it was so inconsistent. Just about everyone is dead! Society is over! Wait, society is still there in pockets. Nah, some places were basically unscathed. It basically became an action/mystery soap opera. Create as much drama as humanly possible, and make the viewer feel like they're constant victims that somehow overcome everything because they're badasses, then immediately become victims again.

                                          It was absolute trash, and it could have been the most epic adventure show ever. If I had the reigns, I'd have made it stay hard to find civilization. There would be groups and areas that are better at surviving, and have smart solutions to things. But it would be rare. It'd use that same setting, but the feel would be more like Star Trek/fallout-the comedy. The end of the final episode would have the ship struggling with a skeleton crew finally succumbing to a really big storm and sinking. Then it would switch to a view of the earth spinning with a timelapse. The night side would be dark for a long time, 4-8 years or so. Then you see lights again somewhere. And it stays maybe a small area for a while but it picks back up exponentially as they share knowledge/vaccine, and you see society start to reestablish itself, making the ships mission having ultimately successful.

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