What is the actual worst TV series you've ever tried to seriously engage with?
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Pluribus.
I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
It is not slow, it is boring. Nothing happen in an Episode, except one tiny event at the end so you can get excited for next episode.. but then nothing happen again.
The main character is unlikable. She was funny in her "bitchy" ways, until she decided to not do anything anymore about the virus for a while.The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
So they start with cool characters and undermine them by changing their motto operandi for no reason, except dragging the serie for 1 more episode.
The only way the whole virus premice would make sense, is if it is an alien ploy to invade the earth. But then it will become a totally different show.
I'm only still invested because i want to know the explanation for the virus.
And if there is no explanation for such a weird virus, it is a waste of timeI binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
You skipped the first 2 episodes?
The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
What? Manousos? No he didn't.
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Nobody ever told you the first book was the best. Literally nobody says that.
The friend who introduced me to the series does!
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I don't mean stuff that was obviously bad on sight (to you) and so you didn't bother with, or even necessarily content you just checked out of before the first episode was done. But a series that you ultimately felt wasted your time and abandoned due to its total lack of quality.
Andor. I still have yet to finish the first season. It's ok. It insists on itself. While the premise isn't bad, and the story is ok. I just cannot get into it.
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Andor. I still have yet to finish the first season. It's ok. It insists on itself. While the premise isn't bad, and the story is ok. I just cannot get into it.
This is one of the very few times I think "well, you're entitled to your opinion, but you're dead wrong".
In my head the only Star Wars canon consists of IV,V,VI, the bare plot of the prequels, Clone Wars, Andor, and Rogue One. All else is tacky gold decoration.
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Counterpoint: Dolphin side-kick. Great show. I rest my case, your honor.
"Darwin object!"
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I don't mean stuff that was obviously bad on sight (to you) and so you didn't bother with, or even necessarily content you just checked out of before the first episode was done. But a series that you ultimately felt wasted your time and abandoned due to its total lack of quality.
95% of all the shows listed came out in the last 5 years. Interesting trend, that.
I'll break the mould with Sons of Anarchy. It's just so hokey. The crappy music, the dorky "fight" choreography, the annoying characters.... Hard pass.
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Ok, maybe a warm take, but Jordan’s books are not great.
The first 2-3 are great. But then it fucking drags. Sanderson does a decent job wrapping things up, but there is so much fucking fluff that was just unnecessary.I will, however, protest having Padin Fain be a Forsaken. That was a definite misstep imo. Fain is supposed to be a chaotic 3rd party who can use the tools of the Forsaken but is explicitly not aligned with them.
Otherwise, season 2 was a big step up from s1. Haven’t gotten around to s3, since it got canned.
Add a fucking spoiler warning, I'm only on book 7!
Fucking damn it! Here I was thinking Taim would turn out to be Demandred. Fuck!
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The wheel of time. I'm a huge fan of the book series, but that show was a travesty. They threw away large swaths of the story so that the show runner could write his own fanfic. I really wanted to like the show, I gave it multiple chances but it just wasn't the wheel of time as written by Robert Jordan. It's a shame because we probably won't ever get a decent adaptation, at least not in my lifetime.
What did you expect from an amazon exclusive TV series? A faithful adaptation true to the original work, or some generic garbage churned out to appeal to the largest audience?
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Oh my gosh, yes! As a fan of the books, I was so excited for the series. I was determined not to be put off by the changes to the story the producers made, so it took me a while to realize that the changed story lacked something. Like, being good? I should've just stopped after the terrorist attack that killed nobody, or tens of millions of people maybe, in the first episode just to advance the plot. Great visual effects, no emotional resonance. Why should I care? Nobody on-screen seemed to. I stuck it out until the episode that ended with the one character getting surrounded by the Anacreon landing party, but the show never established why I should care about her. So I didn't, and never bothered with the next episode to resolve the cliff-hanger.
I used to feel the same way when it came out. Big fan of the books and was immediately put off by how much was changed in the first few episodes. But my wife got curious and we watched it again together a few months ago, finishing the three seasons and loved it all.
Yes things are different, but those things work if you let em. It's less an adaptation of the books and more of a musician of a different genre doing a cover song. You do you, but maybe give it another shot. I'm glad I did.
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I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
You skipped the first 2 episodes?
The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
What? Manousos? No he didn't.
::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
Nah, he did. But the writers and characters are aware of that. His eventual willingness to compromise his values for the greater good is very on-topic for the themes of the series.
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Pluribus.
I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
It is not slow, it is boring. Nothing happen in an Episode, except one tiny event at the end so you can get excited for next episode.. but then nothing happen again.
The main character is unlikable. She was funny in her "bitchy" ways, until she decided to not do anything anymore about the virus for a while.The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
So they start with cool characters and undermine them by changing their motto operandi for no reason, except dragging the serie for 1 more episode.
The only way the whole virus premice would make sense, is if it is an alien ploy to invade the earth. But then it will become a totally different show.
I'm only still invested because i want to know the explanation for the virus.
And if there is no explanation for such a weird virus, it is a waste of time...why would you start in the middle of a season?
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
Nah, he did. But the writers and characters are aware of that. His eventual willingness to compromise his values for the greater good is very on-topic for the themes of the series.
:::Manousos? Compromised his values?
Do you mean him talking to the hive at the end?
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I don't mean stuff that was obviously bad on sight (to you) and so you didn't bother with, or even necessarily content you just checked out of before the first episode was done. But a series that you ultimately felt wasted your time and abandoned due to its total lack of quality.
Under The Dome. Terrific Stephen King epic, with a huge cast of characters, including one of his best villains, and I was really looking forward to the series.
It opened okay, and they did a good job of showing the Dome coming down, but a few episodes in they introduced some weird supernatural nonsense that didn't exist in the original, and I was out.
It really pissed me off. It was a great story, all they had to do was tell it, but they had to get "creative" and fuck it up.
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I binge watched it starting on Ep3, because Red Letter Media was gushing about it.
You skipped the first 2 episodes?
The Spanish dude was cool in his no-compromise approach, then do a 180 at the end for no reason.
What? Manousos? No he didn't.
The "Spanish dude" tells a lot about the amount of attention/analysis they put into it. I'm also bad at remembering names but.. Spanish?
A lot of the "meaning" in Pluribus is in the details imo. Facial expressions, silent scenes, little choices in the acting, direction, cinematography. Also not saying that it's the most sublime expression of art in the history of cinema, just that I believe most people that found it "boring" just didn't really watch it
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Add a fucking spoiler warning, I'm only on book 7!
Fucking damn it! Here I was thinking Taim would turn out to be Demandred. Fuck!
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills
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Firefly
There are worse shows, but this was one of the first where I should have liked everything about it, but instead I hated the campiness.
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Blood and bloody ashes!
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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::: spoilers Pluribus season 1
That's part of it, yes. It starts when he steals the ambulance, which Carol later points out is hypocritical of him. He realizes she's right and consciously decides to start making compromises like allowing her cellphone and exploiting collective resources as a means of discovering how to save humanity. It's a dramatic change from his earlier stance, like how he leaves money in exchange for stolen gas, and it's executed very well. I don't think his unwillingness to sin would have gotten him far in his goals, but the defeat of his resolution is still tragic.
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He took the ambulance and wrote down in the hospital that he owed them.
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So him talking to the hive as a means to understand how to defeat them, because Carol suggested he finally do so is somehow compromising his values? Should people never ever change or adapt to anything ever?
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Obi Wan. Mandalorian was a little disappointing but cool and zeitgeisty, Boba Fett was worse, then the Obi Wan show was just unwatchable. Which is weird because Andor was so much better than it had any right to be.
Obi Wank Enobi
