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Is there any Fediverse project aimed at creating a safe space for kids to interact within?

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  • G Grail

    Raising children without involving them in politics is terribly cruel. Children are the future and will need to live in the world we create, so they're the most important people to involve in the political decision making process. Greta Thunberg knows that.

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    cinoreus@lemmy.world
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    That only sounds good until you realise this political exposure is also the reason children are going the andrew tate route. It's easier to influence children than it is to adults, and my point still stands, neither of these things must be shown to children without adult supervision atleast.

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    • B biofaust@lemmy.world

      Features I can think of:

      • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
      • no direct messaging,
      • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
      • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
      • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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      routhinator@startrek.website
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      Kids should NOT be on social media.

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      • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

        I’m not sure any of those things require social media services

        Especially when irl social media services for kids mostly result in interpersonal abuses and right wing fomentation (look into the discord child sex abuse and terrorism problems)

        Open access to quality information does not need to be intertwined with public social media and everything we’re seeing technology do to children is harmful

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        Grail
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        We're seeing technology do a lot of great things for kids. We're seeing puberty blockers and vaccines save lives. We're seeing kids with no adults they can trust find community on the internet. We're seeing kids spread a message of hope and resilience and care for the environment across the world. We're seeing renewable energy heat their homes and feed them. We're seeing electric wheelchairs gives kids with no legs mobility. We're seeing assistive speech devices give kids with auditory deficits a voice. We're using cochlear implants and eyeglasses to let kids see and hear.

        Technology is so great for kids. I would not want to raise a child without modern technology. Hell, without modern antibiotics and disinfectants and vaccines, it's even odds they die before their first birthday.

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        • B biofaust@lemmy.world

          Question is, is there anyone that is even suggesting to build a moderation tool for, for example, Mastodon, aimed at this specific need?

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          scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #15

          I'm not talking about usability, just about the foundation. Besides what others already said about why it's not a good idea to answer your specific question regarij moderation tooling is:

          Your requirements are incompatible with decentralization. Every moderation tool will have to use the network itself which means a moderation event has a significant delay in which the content has a "head start".

          There is no way to have an instant kill switch for content or a centralized gated release of content.

          And at the end everyone can spin up an instance and decide on moderation, after all - and decide on the moderation rules there. This will cause an even bigger delay until the malicious instance is blacklisted by others.

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          • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

            That only sounds good until you realise this political exposure is also the reason children are going the andrew tate route. It's easier to influence children than it is to adults, and my point still stands, neither of these things must be shown to children without adult supervision atleast.

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            Grail
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            The only reason the human species evolved language is for political organisation. Kids need politics to thrive. We have examples of kids who were raised without politics like Genie and they were severely intellectually stunted. Politics is as fundamental to the human condition as breathing.

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            • G Grail

              We're seeing technology do a lot of great things for kids. We're seeing puberty blockers and vaccines save lives. We're seeing kids with no adults they can trust find community on the internet. We're seeing kids spread a message of hope and resilience and care for the environment across the world. We're seeing renewable energy heat their homes and feed them. We're seeing electric wheelchairs gives kids with no legs mobility. We're seeing assistive speech devices give kids with auditory deficits a voice. We're using cochlear implants and eyeglasses to let kids see and hear.

              Technology is so great for kids. I would not want to raise a child without modern technology. Hell, without modern antibiotics and disinfectants and vaccines, it's even odds they die before their first birthday.

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              gustofwind@lemmy.world
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              #17

              I should have been more specific but I meant social media connectivity technologies

              We don’t need public social media for kids for any of those other things

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              • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                Features I can think of:

                • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                • no direct messaging,
                • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                Endymion_Mallorn
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                #18

                Absolutely not. Kids should be kept away from social media as it exists now. Frankly, kids need to be supervised on the Internet as a whole, because there's so much dangerous shit out there to hurt them.

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                • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

                  I should have been more specific but I meant social media connectivity technologies

                  We don’t need public social media for kids for any of those other things

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                  Grail
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                  #19

                  Ah, well... No. I can understand how that opinion makes sense from a cishet perspective, but the internet has been a game changer for queer people. You do not want a generation of kids in conservative areas having nobody to talk to.

                  And when it comes to otherkin and plural kids, forget it. Social media bans are already scarring people and reifying traumas. We have a soaring rate of youth suicidality here in Australia https://www.suicidepreventionaust.org/reckless-haste-rushed-legislation-on-social-media-ban-risks-harm-to-young-australians/

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                  • G Grail

                    Ah, well... No. I can understand how that opinion makes sense from a cishet perspective, but the internet has been a game changer for queer people. You do not want a generation of kids in conservative areas having nobody to talk to.

                    And when it comes to otherkin and plural kids, forget it. Social media bans are already scarring people and reifying traumas. We have a soaring rate of youth suicidality here in Australia https://www.suicidepreventionaust.org/reckless-haste-rushed-legislation-on-social-media-ban-risks-harm-to-young-australians/

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                    gustofwind@lemmy.world
                    wrote last edited by gustofwind@lemmy.world
                    #20

                    I’m not cishet but your problem is not social media bans its the already existent homophobic violence present in society

                    Enabling private communications and making true knowledge available through technology are not the same things as just letting kids post things to the public internet via systems literally invented and designed to be addictive and profit off social harm

                    Edit; the best analogy I’ve seen is it’s like selling kids open source range free cigarettes. Cigarettes are simply bad and almost all social media is too and it’s even worse for children

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                    • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

                      I’m not cishet but your problem is not social media bans its the already existent homophobic violence present in society

                      Enabling private communications and making true knowledge available through technology are not the same things as just letting kids post things to the public internet via systems literally invented and designed to be addictive and profit off social harm

                      Edit; the best analogy I’ve seen is it’s like selling kids open source range free cigarettes. Cigarettes are simply bad and almost all social media is too and it’s even worse for children

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                      Grail
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                      #21

                      Nobody can solve homophobia overnight but people can make safe communities for queer kids on the internet. And that's a good thing. We need to look after the next generation. We need to show up for them if their parents won't.

                      The AIDS crisis caused a generation of queer people to grow up without their community elders. We're still feeling the ramifications of that in the community. I don't want a repeat of that. The kids need online role models.

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                        surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                        #22

                        as it exists now. ... need to be supervised.

                        Good thing he's asking for exactly that.

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                        • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                          Question is, is there anyone that is even suggesting to build a moderation tool for, for example, Mastodon, aimed at this specific need?

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                          surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                          #23

                          Moderation is the wrong answer. White listing is the right answer.

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                          • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                            Features I can think of:

                            • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                            • no direct messaging,
                            • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                            • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                            • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                            freebooter69@lemmy.ca
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                            #24

                            I think that could get really expensive. Also pedo's have a habit of getting into trusted authority, how do you keep them out? They can't even get those people out of the office of the president of the US.

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                            • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                              Features I can think of:

                              • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                              • no direct messaging,
                              • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                              • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                              • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                              redgreenblue@lemmy.zip
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                              #25

                              Parents should parent their kids. If they are harmed by taking part on a platform, that's on the parent. Parenting tools exist on the network and device level. But you might just want to trust your kid and let them grow up.

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                              • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                                Features I can think of:

                                • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                                • no direct messaging,
                                • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                                • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                                • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                                eleijeep
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                                #26

                                Why do you ask?

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