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Is there any Fediverse project aimed at creating a safe space for kids to interact within?

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  • G Grail

    We're seeing technology do a lot of great things for kids. We're seeing puberty blockers and vaccines save lives. We're seeing kids with no adults they can trust find community on the internet. We're seeing kids spread a message of hope and resilience and care for the environment across the world. We're seeing renewable energy heat their homes and feed them. We're seeing electric wheelchairs gives kids with no legs mobility. We're seeing assistive speech devices give kids with auditory deficits a voice. We're using cochlear implants and eyeglasses to let kids see and hear.

    Technology is so great for kids. I would not want to raise a child without modern technology. Hell, without modern antibiotics and disinfectants and vaccines, it's even odds they die before their first birthday.

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    gustofwind@lemmy.world
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    #17

    I should have been more specific but I meant social media connectivity technologies

    We don’t need public social media for kids for any of those other things

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    • B biofaust@lemmy.world

      Features I can think of:

      • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
      • no direct messaging,
      • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
      • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
      • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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      Endymion_Mallorn
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      #18

      Absolutely not. Kids should be kept away from social media as it exists now. Frankly, kids need to be supervised on the Internet as a whole, because there's so much dangerous shit out there to hurt them.

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      • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

        I should have been more specific but I meant social media connectivity technologies

        We don’t need public social media for kids for any of those other things

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        Grail
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        Ah, well... No. I can understand how that opinion makes sense from a cishet perspective, but the internet has been a game changer for queer people. You do not want a generation of kids in conservative areas having nobody to talk to.

        And when it comes to otherkin and plural kids, forget it. Social media bans are already scarring people and reifying traumas. We have a soaring rate of youth suicidality here in Australia https://www.suicidepreventionaust.org/reckless-haste-rushed-legislation-on-social-media-ban-risks-harm-to-young-australians/

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        • G Grail

          Ah, well... No. I can understand how that opinion makes sense from a cishet perspective, but the internet has been a game changer for queer people. You do not want a generation of kids in conservative areas having nobody to talk to.

          And when it comes to otherkin and plural kids, forget it. Social media bans are already scarring people and reifying traumas. We have a soaring rate of youth suicidality here in Australia https://www.suicidepreventionaust.org/reckless-haste-rushed-legislation-on-social-media-ban-risks-harm-to-young-australians/

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          #20

          I’m not cishet but your problem is not social media bans its the already existent homophobic violence present in society

          Enabling private communications and making true knowledge available through technology are not the same things as just letting kids post things to the public internet via systems literally invented and designed to be addictive and profit off social harm

          Edit; the best analogy I’ve seen is it’s like selling kids open source range free cigarettes. Cigarettes are simply bad and almost all social media is too and it’s even worse for children

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          • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

            I’m not cishet but your problem is not social media bans its the already existent homophobic violence present in society

            Enabling private communications and making true knowledge available through technology are not the same things as just letting kids post things to the public internet via systems literally invented and designed to be addictive and profit off social harm

            Edit; the best analogy I’ve seen is it’s like selling kids open source range free cigarettes. Cigarettes are simply bad and almost all social media is too and it’s even worse for children

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            Grail
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            #21

            Nobody can solve homophobia overnight but people can make safe communities for queer kids on the internet. And that's a good thing. We need to look after the next generation. We need to show up for them if their parents won't.

            The AIDS crisis caused a generation of queer people to grow up without their community elders. We're still feeling the ramifications of that in the community. I don't want a repeat of that. The kids need online role models.

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              surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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              #22

              as it exists now. ... need to be supervised.

              Good thing he's asking for exactly that.

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              • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                Question is, is there anyone that is even suggesting to build a moderation tool for, for example, Mastodon, aimed at this specific need?

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                surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                #23

                Moderation is the wrong answer. White listing is the right answer.

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                • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                  Features I can think of:

                  • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                  • no direct messaging,
                  • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                  • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                  • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                  freebooter69@lemmy.ca
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                  #24

                  I think that could get really expensive. Also pedo's have a habit of getting into trusted authority, how do you keep them out? They can't even get those people out of the office of the president of the US.

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                  • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                    Features I can think of:

                    • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                    • no direct messaging,
                    • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                    • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                    • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                    redgreenblue@lemmy.zip
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                    #25

                    Parents should parent their kids. If they are harmed by taking part on a platform, that's on the parent. Parenting tools exist on the network and device level. But you might just want to trust your kid and let them grow up.

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                    • B biofaust@lemmy.world

                      Features I can think of:

                      • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
                      • no direct messaging,
                      • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
                      • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
                      • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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                      eleijeep
                      wrote last edited by
                      #26

                      Why do you ask?

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