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Would it be realistic to try to set up an america-free instance?

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  • A Ace

    I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

    But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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    Rentlar
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    Filters exist in Piefed so I hear, and you can already block instances and communities and users you feel are too American focused.

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    • A Ace

      I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

      But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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      When was the last time that people who banned others based on country of origin were the good guys?

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      • reznik@lemmy.zipR reznik@lemmy.zip

        no americans allowed? that seems to be a very, very bad idea to me. let's not go there.

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        mrrazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz
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        found the yank

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        • A Ace

          I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

          But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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          deliriousdreams
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          Sounds like you should just set up your own instance and IP block as you see fit.

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          • A Ace

            I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

            But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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            frongt@lemmy.zip
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            Realistic to set up? Sure, easy. Realistic to use? Unlikely.

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              When was the last time that people who banned others based on country of origin were the good guys?

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              goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Fuck, I can't think of any.

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                When was the last time that people who banned others based on country of origin were the good guys?

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                Brewchin
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                #12

                This.

                Mitchell & Webb's "Are we the baddies?" is a moment of introspection that is often overlooked. It would stop a lot of problems caused by (possibly) well meaning people

                Though, Hanlon's Razor can also apply: "Never attribute to malice that which can be sufficiently explained by stupidity." You don't know what you don't know... so it's possible(?) the question was asked without any understanding of the long, sordid history of this kind of blanket censorship and its outcomes. 🤷‍♂️

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                • A Ace

                  I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                  But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                  Shimitar
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                  Well, I think there are a few... Indeed I know at least two italian instances, plus my private instance....

                  But most of activity is currently on USA instances like world, so...

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                  • A Ace

                    I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                    But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                    nandeebisu@lemmy.world
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                    That sounds like something you should do with content moderation rather than technologically.

                    There are also world politics communities, that explicitly ban US and other global north news. There are also country specific news communities as well. That's kind of what having multiple communities is for.

                    If people aren't willing to subscribe to those communities, they're likely less willing to use a whole different lemmy instance.

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                    • A Ace

                      I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                      But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                      combatwombatesq@lemmy.world
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                      You can block amerigocentric instances and users (like me!) if you want, but people will still use vpns to say “soccer” on your America-free instances and I don’t think there’s anything to be done to prevent that.

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                      • A Ace

                        I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                        But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                        fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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                        So, you and like 3 other Scandinavians can sit around and talk Linux? Go ahead.

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                        • BrewchinB Brewchin

                          This.

                          Mitchell & Webb's "Are we the baddies?" is a moment of introspection that is often overlooked. It would stop a lot of problems caused by (possibly) well meaning people

                          Though, Hanlon's Razor can also apply: "Never attribute to malice that which can be sufficiently explained by stupidity." You don't know what you don't know... so it's possible(?) the question was asked without any understanding of the long, sordid history of this kind of blanket censorship and its outcomes. 🤷‍♂️

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                          Maeve
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                          Unfortunately, USA politics and economics is affecting everyone right now and has been for over a century. The problem may self resolve in the next decade or two, assuming the human species survived that long.

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                          • A Ace

                            I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                            But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                            Rekall Incorporated
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                            Stupid idea.

                            I say this as someone who lives in a country where multiple random US sites (from work-related to gaming) do a country-wide IP block.

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                            • reznik@lemmy.zipR reznik@lemmy.zip

                              no americans allowed? that seems to be a very, very bad idea to me. let's not go there.

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                              atro_city
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                              seppo alert!

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                              • A Ace

                                I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                                But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                                atro_city
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                                Do it, dude. I'd join an instance where USAian talk isn't allowed. Fuck, I'm tired of their constant drama and exaggerations and everything. Orange man this, raspy-voiced poop-brain that, "we baaambed this" and "literally destroyed" that. And it's football FFS, not soccer.

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                                • A Ace

                                  I thought it'd be nice for the rest of the world to have a de-america'd instance where there's no discussion of america, certainly no american politics, and no americans are allowed via IP block.

                                  But I think to do that effectively, you'd probably have to defederate from most of the rest of lemmy, and then you've lost most of the federation benefits of being a lemmy instance. However I'm only vaguely familiar with how all of the connections work so maybe someone can correct me.

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                                  Hello_there
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                                  I'm all for it.
                                  Just make sure the ip block is only for posting not reading. Some of us here want out.

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                                  • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS skullgrid@lemmy.world

                                    you need people to shitpost. unfortunately that means the USaians and their fucking constant barrage of political failure news.

                                    Nothing wrong with the yanks, but their constant news that overtake any other things happening around the world is fucking annoying.

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                                    PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]
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                                    Nothing wrong with the yanks

                                    I appreciate you trying to be nice but there's so so so so so much wrong with us amerikkka

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                                    • C combatwombatesq@lemmy.world

                                      You can block amerigocentric instances and users (like me!) if you want, but people will still use vpns to say “soccer” on your America-free instances and I don’t think there’s anything to be done to prevent that.

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                                      PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]
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                                      #23

                                      Yeah I'm from the US and while I would respect the community's wishes not to hear from me, I would 1000% listen through a VPN so I can learn and signal-boost your non-AmeriKKKan perspectives 😆

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                                      • ShimitarS Shimitar

                                        Well, I think there are a few... Indeed I know at least two italian instances, plus my private instance....

                                        But most of activity is currently on USA instances like world, so...

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                                        Malta Soron
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                                        .world is Dutch

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                                          .world is Dutch

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                                          *Musical sting*

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