Fun fact: you can't upload this image on piefed.social

[wjs018@piefed.wjs018.xyz]

I know the blocking stuff is actively being worked on as we aren't happy with it yet. However, that is an issue where it would be literally impossible for every user to be happy with whatever end state it results in. That is an area where the different software platforms can offer people different experiences so that they can seek out the type of experience they are looking for.

Almost everything else you listed here can be turned on/off by an admin. I didn't know about the 8-character username thing, probably worth revisiting that. The downvotes being disabled with low attitude is one I don't see being removed, but could be an admin-set threshold (or disabled) in a future version. In fact, I suspect that the formula was written this way to make the threshold more well bounded instead of a simple up - down calculation.

[postimo@lemmy.zip]

Phew, well thank goodness all the users are safe from authoritarian red fascist code!

[irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Iirc, a thing was added that converted the thorn character to a th because some user was annoying everyone by using thorns instead of ths.

[skavau@piefed.social]

For example, you cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long:

I don't see a problem here. This is oddly specific, but it's rooted in anti-downvoting spam.

If a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped (CW: ableism in the function name):

There is a setting to turn that on or off at https://piefed.social/admin/misc, "Filter out comments that are simply a form of this"

Every account has a Social Credit Score, aka your Reputation. If your account has less than 100 reputation and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your reputation is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low:

I don't see why this is so inherently onerous to you in principle. Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you're a new account and you've managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it's not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

This is the default detection, apparently you can use an API endpoint for that detection as well apparently, but it’s not documented anywhere but within the code.

The AI detection is going to be poor. But I've seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn't ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins.

As Edie mentioned, if someone has a user blocked, and that user replies to someone, their comment is dropped:

If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That's the mismatch at play here.

If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

PieFed defederates from Hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and Lemmy.ml out of the box.

This can be turned off. It also defederates from hilariouschaos and others.

And no, it does not defederate from lemmy.ml out of the box. You are completely misunderstanding that code. I have already addressed this here.

"Alright, it doesn’t do any defederation, this function just controls what the api reports. It will list which of those four instances the instance is defederated from but that doesn’t look like it is actually used anywhere to do something…let me grab you links here is where piefed digests this api endpoint to populate the instance_chooser table, and the defed_list field isn’t actually used at all

Moderators of a community can kick you from a community, which unsubscribes you from it, and does not notify you. This has been removed actually, the API endpoint is still there.

It has been scrubbed, but it also never really functioned in the first place.

[goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org]

I'm curious who are considered the enablers before able to answer that

Edit, interesting no response here to the question

[hitagi@ani.social]

For those hosting their own PieFed instances, this is very easy to disable (I think it was ALLOW_4CHAN=True in the env). I turned it off because I didn't like the OCR scanning every upload and locking up my tiny 2 core server for a few seconds.

[fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

That sounds like a great feature ngl

[sharkattak@kbin.melroy.org]

What are you talking about?

[lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org]

That's certainly good to hear. But still, it's worth to be cautious around.

[grail@multiverse.soulism.net]

No, the 4chan filter is documented. And I actually think it's a pretty neat feature. Despite being a communist, I'm not quite enough of a left wing radical to want to use it, but I still appreciate what it's made for. But I understand why the radical centrists who made the Lemmy software would see no use for it.

What I really want is an equivalent that bans Xitter screenshots. I don't want to give Musk's Nazi bar any more attention.

[grail@multiverse.soulism.net]

Yep! Multiverse is an anarcho-antirealist instance. We believe consensus reality is a social construct created by the bourgeoisie to oppress us, and that the master's tools will not dismantle the master's house. A communist revolution will only succeed when we abandon bourgeois realism.

[grail@multiverse.soulism.net]

I only support the inclusion of the feature if there's also an option to convert all ths into thorns. Fair is fair.

[eldritch@piefed.world]

Aaaah cool. So plain speak wise, perception often becomes a persons reality. Even if not permanently. And the wealthiest use manipulation through propaganda to control perception and what individuals perceive as reality. Pitting them against eachother. I don't see anything too controversial about that. But I can see why ML would. They're very dependent on said propaganda and manipulation.

[zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works]

current_user.reputation -= 1

So what exactly is going on there?

[grail@multiverse.soulism.net]

The place where it gets controversial is that we say gender, race, species, and divinity are also social constructs. Neither inherently true nor false, but rather a choice we make as society, and should therefore treat with responsibility and kindness. We piss off the transphobes by saying trans people exist, the kinphobes by saying otherkin exist, the human supremacists by saying animals deserve rights, the atheists by saying the gods exist, the monotheists by saying ALL the gods exist, and the white realist liberals by saying indigenous myths are literally true, and the rainbow serpent truly did make Australia, North America truly is on the back of a giant turtle, and the big bang truly did create the universe, although Elohim created Jewish people.

We believe everyone about their own cultural truths, and that pisses off all the exclusionary realists.

[slurpingpus@lemmy.world]

Piefed has code to explicitly fuck over Sxan or what's their name, by replacing the thorn character with ‘th’. Meaning you can't properly cite Old English, Old Norse, or modern Icelandic on Piefed. But of course, “Lemmy is the authoritarian communist platform”.

Piefed's code also reeks of a recent college graduate, being a stream of consciousness with almost no comments. Meanwhile the most known, and seemingly most active dev claims twenty-five years of experience, making one wonder if they learned anything in that time (or if they count from when they've typed up some Logo at three years old).

[slurpingpus@lemmy.world]

Indeed, Icelanders shouldn't be allowed to use their language on fediverse. English only or gtfo.

[flamingos@feddit.uk]

I was curious to see how they handle this on the fedi side, because they obviously can't stop you from uploading images to other instances, so decided to do some digging myself.

The fedi code for this is here and looks like this:

# Alert regarding fascist meme content
if site.enable_chan_image_filter and toxic_community and img_width < 2000:  # images > 2000px tend to be real photos instead of 4chan screenshots.
    if os.environ.get('ALLOW_4CHAN', None) is None:
        try:
            image_text = pytesseract.image_to_string(
                Image.open(BytesIO(source_image)).convert('L'), timeout=30)
        except Exception:
            image_text = ''
        if 'Anonymous' in image_text and (
                'No.' in image_text or ' N0' in image_text):  # chan posts usually contain the text 'Anonymous' and ' No.12345'
            post = session.query(Post).filter_by(image_id=file.id).first()
            targets_data = {'gen': '0',
                            'post_id': post.id,
                            'orig_post_title': post.title,
                            'orig_post_body': post.body
                            }
            notification = Notification(title='Review this',
                                        user_id=1,
                                        author_id=post.user_id,
                                        url=post.slug,
                                        notif_type=NOTIF_REPORT,
                                        subtype='post_with_suspicious_image',
                                        targets=targets_data)
            session.add(notification)
            session.commit()

The curious thing here, apart from there being both an environmental variable and site setting for this, is the toxic_community variable. This seems to be a renaming of the low_quality field Piefed applies to communities, which are just communities with either memes or shitpost in their name.

You also don't get social credits docked for this.

[altphoto@lemmy.today]

I cannot post pictures anymore. Is that a thing now? They just ban you from posting images without telling you why or what you did wrong? I assume I did something wrong. Only recently I found the mod log and dude, nobody told me that existed.

[blaze@piefed.zip]

Piefed has code to explicitly fuck over Sxan or what’s their name, by replacing the thorn character with ‘th’.

This has been removed