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  • E einlander@lemmy.world

    Lemmy communities could benefit from a webring concept.

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    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    You're right! That's perfect! that's what i was looking for, now i have a name to it. thank you. i think it would maybe work well enough if the sidebar could link to related communities?

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    • S Sergio

      Yeah, feeds are neat bc they're user-curated, they're easy to copy, and you can easily tell which communities are active.

      Your proximetry metrics is a good idea too, I bet it would work best in a tool like the Lemmy Explorer: https://lemmyverse.net/communities

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      #99

      yeah i get what you mean, but it would be neat if it was automated so it's personal to you, and just shows you new communities you might be interested in.

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      • RimuR Rimu

        it shouldn’t bring you to another site but open the link on your site

        PieFed does that, FYI.

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        gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        #100

        yeah i just checked, amazing!

        piefed also has this amazingly good dialogue when you sign up:

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        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

          yeah i just checked, amazing!

          piefed also has this amazingly good dialogue when you sign up:

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          Rimu
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          #101

          Haha Lemmy has way too much Trump news IMO!

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

            I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

            the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

            So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

            edit: source for the graph

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            bbboi@feddit.uk
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            #102

            A) "Lemmy" is an embarrassingly bad name.

            B) Most of the content I see on here seems to be shitposts. Not saying it all is, but the immediate impression for new users is terrible.

            C) Lemmy's biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Moderation is near non-existent and the comment section of posts always devolves into shit.

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            • W weydemeyer@lemmy.ml

              The source data shows that while active users are down, the number of posts and comments are near all-time highs. While you need new users to help counteract churn, I think the higher post/comments count points to what I think a lot of people feel here: that quality seems to keep getting better and better.

              Regarding how to bring more people in, I personally like how different lemmy servers have slightly different characteristics but each seems to appeal to larger groups. I see a future where there’s probably a small-ish number of large servers that cover broad groups of people.

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              bbboi@feddit.uk
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              #103

              It's the same 10 people repeating the same shit-tier political takes that make /pol/ users look like intellectuals.

              That's NOT a good thing.

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                yeah i get what you mean, but it would be neat if it was automated so it's personal to you, and just shows you new communities you might be interested in.

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                Sergio
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                #104

                that site is odd... looks like we have to go to https://lemmyverse.net/ and THEN click "communities"...

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                • B bbboi@feddit.uk

                  A) "Lemmy" is an embarrassingly bad name.

                  B) Most of the content I see on here seems to be shitposts. Not saying it all is, but the immediate impression for new users is terrible.

                  C) Lemmy's biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Moderation is near non-existent and the comment section of posts always devolves into shit.

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                  Skavau
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                  #105

                  C) Moderation varies wildly based on the instance, and the community. I wouldn't say Lemmy comment sections are any worse than Reddits though.

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                  • P NoiseColor

                    If you ask me, users kind of suck.

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                    bbboi@feddit.uk
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                    #106

                    I know I do

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                      bbboi@feddit.uk
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                      God I wish

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                        Rimu
                        wrote last edited by rimu@piefed.social
                        #108

                        I even went as far as making a browser extension - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/uglymug/

                        God, he is hideous.

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                        • S solidheron@sh.itjust.works

                          I do have the idea of making an app it makes an account for one instance and uses that "log in with Google/apple id". Then people can learn later that you you can join other instances or log in via web browser.

                          The server can be simple lemmy or mastodon server and the app can just be variant of Voyager or mastodon app. Someone need to get rid of copyright material then hard code an instance.

                          I would do it myself but I can't get an AI to code apps

                          The other option is to have an app that browser based

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                          chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Would the default instance be run by the app dev? Or in collaboration with some instance? It would maybe be risky to do with an unaffiliated instance because if they didn't like it they could disallow these types of accounts or signups.

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                          • X xanthobilly@lemmy.world

                            It’s quality and quantity. The quality has held despite a drop in users. Just wait and let Reddit have another controversy and we’ll get another infusion of converts. Popularity may only threaten more bots and scams.

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                            postcapitalism@lemmy.today
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                            #110

                            I like it here

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                            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                              i would even say searching and finding are about equally important.

                              finding means that you stumble upon good content by accident, which is i.e. with content recommendation algorithms. We need a system that shows you similar communities to those that you're already subscribed to. I even made a post about this here.

                              Also we really need a better way to link to other posts and comments. I.e. it shouldn't bring you to another site but open the link on your site/app/viewer.

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                              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                              wrote last edited by
                              #111

                              This Lemmy frontend gives a content recommendation algorithm

                              https://quiblr.com/

                              https://quiblr.com/understanding_your_private_personalized_feed

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                              • R rossman@lemmy.zip

                                Do comments help also or we need to post topics etc.

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                                die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                #112

                                I think comments are what Lemmy needs the most, we already have a good number of posts

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                                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                  the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                  So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                  edit: source for the graph

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                                  whirlpoolbrewer@lemmy.world
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                                  I'll commit to commenting more. I prefer to lurk, but the fediverse needs me 🤣

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                                  • khantoblackhand@lemmy.todayK khantoblackhand@lemmy.today

                                    Honestly fragmentation is what keeps people that I recommend Lemmy away from it. They are used to the UX/UI doing most of the heavy lifting along with the more politically charged posts being there, my coworker who loves self hosting and tinkering tried to join. But was put off with how much more political things are on Lemmy and some Fediverse instances are and how hostile they can be with certain opinions. But I taught them how to curate their feed for more things tailored to their passions. But they've been on and off since there's multiple versions the same community which feeds into the fragmentation issue. That is just a viewpoint from me, I'm still fairly new to the Fediverse and Lemmy. (Which I love how diverse it is and how passionate people are.)

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                                    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                    #114

                                    PieFed improves on those issues. And eventually when Lemmy v1.0 is released that will help too

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                      edit: source for the graph

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                                      sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
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                                      #115

                                      Is this like all Lemmy everywhere or just a selection of large instances? Does it account for people that host their own instances and come into the larger spaces to interact? I feel like there's context missing before jumping to conclusions.

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                                      • P postcapitalism@lemmy.today

                                        I like it here

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                                        jed@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                        #116

                                        Seconded. I just learned it exists last week. It's good and has a lot of potential.

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                                        • AdaA Ada

                                          We can make our decentralised network more popular by centralising it feels like an own goal...

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                                          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                          #117

                                          If you're suggesting to your friends you can pick whichever instance you want, but the point is you should choose for them and don't even tell them that there is a choice

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