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  • B bbboi@feddit.uk

    A) "Lemmy" is an embarrassingly bad name.

    B) Most of the content I see on here seems to be shitposts. Not saying it all is, but the immediate impression for new users is terrible.

    C) Lemmy's biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Moderation is near non-existent and the comment section of posts always devolves into shit.

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    Skavau
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    C) Moderation varies wildly based on the instance, and the community. I wouldn't say Lemmy comment sections are any worse than Reddits though.

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    • P NoiseColor

      If you ask me, users kind of suck.

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      bbboi@feddit.uk
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      I know I do

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        bbboi@feddit.uk
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        God I wish

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          Rimu
          wrote last edited by rimu@piefed.social
          #108

          I even went as far as making a browser extension - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/uglymug/

          God, he is hideous.

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          • S solidheron@sh.itjust.works

            I do have the idea of making an app it makes an account for one instance and uses that "log in with Google/apple id". Then people can learn later that you you can join other instances or log in via web browser.

            The server can be simple lemmy or mastodon server and the app can just be variant of Voyager or mastodon app. Someone need to get rid of copyright material then hard code an instance.

            I would do it myself but I can't get an AI to code apps

            The other option is to have an app that browser based

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            chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Would the default instance be run by the app dev? Or in collaboration with some instance? It would maybe be risky to do with an unaffiliated instance because if they didn't like it they could disallow these types of accounts or signups.

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            • X xanthobilly@lemmy.world

              It’s quality and quantity. The quality has held despite a drop in users. Just wait and let Reddit have another controversy and we’ll get another infusion of converts. Popularity may only threaten more bots and scams.

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              postcapitalism@lemmy.today
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              #110

              I like it here

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                i would even say searching and finding are about equally important.

                finding means that you stumble upon good content by accident, which is i.e. with content recommendation algorithms. We need a system that shows you similar communities to those that you're already subscribed to. I even made a post about this here.

                Also we really need a better way to link to other posts and comments. I.e. it shouldn't bring you to another site but open the link on your site/app/viewer.

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                die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                #111

                This Lemmy frontend gives a content recommendation algorithm

                https://quiblr.com/

                https://quiblr.com/understanding_your_private_personalized_feed

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                • R rossman@lemmy.zip

                  Do comments help also or we need to post topics etc.

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                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                  #112

                  I think comments are what Lemmy needs the most, we already have a good number of posts

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                  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                    I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                    the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                    So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                    edit: source for the graph

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                    whirlpoolbrewer@lemmy.world
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                    I'll commit to commenting more. I prefer to lurk, but the fediverse needs me 🤣

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                    • khantoblackhand@lemmy.todayK khantoblackhand@lemmy.today

                      Honestly fragmentation is what keeps people that I recommend Lemmy away from it. They are used to the UX/UI doing most of the heavy lifting along with the more politically charged posts being there, my coworker who loves self hosting and tinkering tried to join. But was put off with how much more political things are on Lemmy and some Fediverse instances are and how hostile they can be with certain opinions. But I taught them how to curate their feed for more things tailored to their passions. But they've been on and off since there's multiple versions the same community which feeds into the fragmentation issue. That is just a viewpoint from me, I'm still fairly new to the Fediverse and Lemmy. (Which I love how diverse it is and how passionate people are.)

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                      die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                      #114

                      PieFed improves on those issues. And eventually when Lemmy v1.0 is released that will help too

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                      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                        I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                        the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                        So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                        edit: source for the graph

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                        sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
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                        Is this like all Lemmy everywhere or just a selection of large instances? Does it account for people that host their own instances and come into the larger spaces to interact? I feel like there's context missing before jumping to conclusions.

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                        • P postcapitalism@lemmy.today

                          I like it here

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                          jed@lemmy.myserv.one
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                          #116

                          Seconded. I just learned it exists last week. It's good and has a lot of potential.

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                          • AdaA Ada

                            We can make our decentralised network more popular by centralising it feels like an own goal...

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                            die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                            wrote last edited by
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                            If you're suggesting to your friends you can pick whichever instance you want, but the point is you should choose for them and don't even tell them that there is a choice

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                            • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                              A lot of those 'users' are bots or paid shills too.

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                              OpenStars
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                              I doubt the latter - we are too small - but many are definitely alts for sure. Lemmy's lack of federation for moderator reports (either coming soon or only came recently I forget which) made that necessary.

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                              • L lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org

                                too complicated

                                Nani? It's 2026, getting an account on some lemmy and start posting is nearly two orders of magnitude easier than trying to sign up to an email account!

                                That people are brainrotten due to excessive Fortnite and Instagram is, unfortunately, not our problem. At some point, the answer is "just get better users".

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                                die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                #119

                                Singing up for a Google account is such a pain, they've gotten worse over time

                                The difference is people think they NEED a Google account, but not a Lemmy account

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                                • DeceptichumD Deceptichum

                                  Riposte? What a fun word, I should incorporate that.

                                  This thread is doing well for engagement, go sort by new and comment on something 😉

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                                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                  wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                  #120

                                  Maybe we need a sort/filter for posts with 0 comments, like a "Needs Comments" filter... Might be worth submitting a feature request on Lemmy and PieFed?

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                                  • S sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io

                                    Is this like all Lemmy everywhere or just a selection of large instances? Does it account for people that host their own instances and come into the larger spaces to interact? I feel like there's context missing before jumping to conclusions.

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                                    Skavau
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                                    It will grab most of it. Some instances are not on there though. I believe Lemmynsfw.com removed themselves a month or so ago.

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                      edit: source for the graph

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                                      colesloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                      Part of the issue (I feel a large part ) is that the learning curve is too steep to get on Lemmy

                                      Now I'm not saying it's hard at all; but it's significantly higher than simply "go to a main page and create a user name and password". Lemmy needs a sign up page that just random signs you up to an active instance (per the instances permission) and automatically subscribes you to the 50 most active instances to just get you started up.

                                      Making a getting started page that's as idiot proof as any .com would probably go a long ways into upping our numbers here.

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                                      • SahwaT Sahwa

                                        They know there are other options, but they won't join us on the fediverse. That's because no celebrities or influencers have moved to the fediverse.

                                        And as for reddit users, most of them just like "huh? I like staying here" or "the lemmy devs are tankies and lemmy is a toxic tankies dumpster"

                                        But that's okay with me, at least we have fewer toxic people.

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                                        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                        or "the lemmy devs are tankies and lemmy is a toxic tankies dumpster"

                                        Well there's always PieFed

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                                        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                          I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                          the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                          So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                          edit: source for the graph

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                                          daguma118@lemmy.zip
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                                          For me I had so much issue actually making an account, I almost gave up. I think it is cool how Lemmy looks, very simple and very direct, but it does need a bit of more user experience.

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