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  • M mbech@feddit.dk

    I really don't mind that the fediverse is an echo chamber. I'm in no way interessted in having conversations with fascists.

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    blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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    #286

    Your response is an example of what frustrates me with Lemmy. Anyone with a different opinion must be a fascist. No nuance. Just instantly labelling people. No wonder the numbers are dropping and not attracting new users.

    Guess what? We can have people who aren't far left who aren't fascists. I'd rather see healthy discussions and debates than everyone patting each other on the back for saying "DAE capitalism bad".

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    • J jode@pawb.social

      Oh they won't ban it they'll hide 18+ subs behind a pay wall and call it "premium access"

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      jenings@lemmy.world
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      #287

      Not to get too political but Redgifs is banned in my state without Id verification. I would guess it’s coming if the fundamentalists continue to get their symbolic wins from the unrepentant rapist pedophiles thieves and drunks running th joint.

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      • G grepe@lemmy.world

        it's not just not caring. lemmy is currently not a viable alternative for e.g. reddit (there are no active conmunities for any of mine hobbies and posting to any of those that are here doesn't make sense - there is nobody out here who could respond to a specific question about analog photography or something similar). fediverse as a whole will never reach the momentum of old centralized social media - by design. it turns out that having many small servers with different moderation policies is great for resilience but sucks for bringing people together. i found out recently that my mastodon server is blacklisted on many of mainstream ones not because there is some bad content there but because it federates with some servers that mods somewhere else consider harmful... and so i am missing large swats of content from those.

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        #288

        i found out recently that my mastodon server is blacklisted on many of mainstream ones not because there is some bad content there but because it federates with some servers that mods somewhere else consider harmful

        Genuinely, why would they do that? Like does Mastodon software work differently than Lemmy's - is there some way that someone from one of THOSE places could post content onto your instance (I dunno, CSAM? or just some trolling or piracy or something that someone considers offensive), and thereby it could come in indirectly to theirs? It makes no sense to me, at least if we were talking Lemmy, but I am interested how Mastodon differs there.

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        • surp@lemmy.worldS surp@lemmy.world

          I've been here a few years now and I can say Lemmy's got issues. You can't come on here and have a good time anymore when all it's about is trump trump trump and Linux Linux Linux it gets old. I wanna escape from reality a bit sometimes and there's few areas to subscribe to that gives any joy anymore.

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          limelight79@lemmy.world
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          #289

          Yeah part of the issue here is that there are so few users that the more niche topics just don't get a lot of traction.

          For example, I help mod the Washington Capitals hockey team community, but mostly it's just two of us talking. We recently decided to stop posting game day threads for every game, because there'd be one comment in them (usually me), if we were lucky - and we were the last NHL team community to end the game day threads; most stopped long ago. The overhead just wasn't worth the reward. We decided we'd focus more on the general Hockey community, hoping to build that out a bit.

          (We didn't give up entirely - we posted a sticky thread that is for all games, and we'll make a top level comment for each game in there, asking people to respond to that comment for that game. If they don't, not a major issue. This way we still have the forum for the game discussions without having to worry about posting it every time.)

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          • boiglenoight@lemmy.worldB boiglenoight@lemmy.world

            I could not find Jerboa in the App Store. I use Voyager. We need Lemmy.

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            surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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            #290

            This is such an underrated point. If we want people to join Lemmy, we need an app called Lemmy, on every platform. And if we want to steal users from Reddit, make the UI a clone of the reddit app but better. And allow people to join via the app, not some separate website.

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            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

              I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

              the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

              So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

              edit: source for the graph

              Fair FairyS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Fair Fairy
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              #291

              Can someone vibecode a self hosted tool that reposts reddit top rated content to Lemmy?
              Like people that are interested could just run that self hosted service for subreddit they are interested in and it would post automatically into lemmy communities .

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                edit: source for the graph

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                danh2os
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                #292

                https://piefed.social

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                • The QuuuuuillQ The Quuuuuill

                  phone apps can't use activity pub as that's a server protocol so if you want a good mobile interface you generally speaking need a rest-y api that an application can query. yes, lemmy and piefed both feature PWA frontends that can be installed to your homescreen, however on older phones this can be an extremely suboptimal experience as PWAs tend to require more RAM than native apps.

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                  rglullis@communick.news
                  wrote last edited by
                  #293

                  You don't need to get rid of the server. All I'm saying is that we can have a server that uses the ActivityPub API directly instead of these ad-hoc APIs for each different use case.

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                  • surp@lemmy.worldS surp@lemmy.world

                    I've been here a few years now and I can say Lemmy's got issues. You can't come on here and have a good time anymore when all it's about is trump trump trump and Linux Linux Linux it gets old. I wanna escape from reality a bit sometimes and there's few areas to subscribe to that gives any joy anymore.

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                    thetesthuman@feddit.org
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                    #294

                    Im new here and the part you talk about feels the same as reddit at least here I feel like im not supporting that clusterfuck by being an advertisement target.

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                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                      edit: source for the graph

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                      worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today
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                      #295

                      This is quite concerning indeed.

                      We should start by being better at retaining what we already have.

                      Every person is valuable now.

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                      • rglullis@communick.newsR rglullis@communick.news

                        You don't need to get rid of the server. All I'm saying is that we can have a server that uses the ActivityPub API directly instead of these ad-hoc APIs for each different use case.

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                        The Quuuuuill
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                        #296

                        i don't understand how that negates the utility of a mobile app that presents this information. also i'm not saying to get rid of the server-client paradigm, not sure what you're talking about

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                        • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

                          This is quite concerning indeed.

                          We should start by being better at retaining what we already have.

                          Every person is valuable now.

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                          OpenStars
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                          #297

                          Then don't ever say anything that someone might disagree with or...

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                          • Fair FairyS Fair Fairy

                            Can someone vibecode a self hosted tool that reposts reddit top rated content to Lemmy?
                            Like people that are interested could just run that self hosted service for subreddit they are interested in and it would post automatically into lemmy communities .

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                            OpenStars
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                            #298

                            If this is a bit, then well done.

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                            • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

                              This is quite concerning indeed.

                              We should start by being better at retaining what we already have.

                              Every person is valuable now.

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                              Constant Pain
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                              #299

                              I'm worried that mods here are starting to abuse their power as have happened on Reddit and have seen some instances of it. A lot of people fled Reddit because of it and will not stick around for the same bullshit here.

                              So making mechanisms to prevent this kind of behavior must be a priority.

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                              • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                                Your response is an example of what frustrates me with Lemmy. Anyone with a different opinion must be a fascist. No nuance. Just instantly labelling people. No wonder the numbers are dropping and not attracting new users.

                                Guess what? We can have people who aren't far left who aren't fascists. I'd rather see healthy discussions and debates than everyone patting each other on the back for saying "DAE capitalism bad".

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                                mbech@feddit.dk
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                                #300

                                I'm not saying people either agree with me or they're fascist. I'm saying I am completely fine with it being an echo chamber, if it means the fascists don't get to speak. I'm not calling everyone slightly to the right of me fascist, I'm completely fine with them. I'm saying actual fascists shouldn't get to have a voice, and I am very happy that they rarely get one here.

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                                • Z zaphod@sopuli.xyz

                                  Should be most of the Lemmy instances, but it's missing the 2k monthly active users on PieFed.

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                                  sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
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                                  #301

                                  Nice good point on piefed ty

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                                  • S Skavau

                                    It will grab most of it. Some instances are not on there though. I believe Lemmynsfw.com removed themselves a month or so ago.

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                                    sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
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                                    #302

                                    Ty for the reply!

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                      edit: source for the graph

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                                      mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip
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                                      #303

                                      Hot take: the biggest issue is actually ever entering a community and seeing zero comments. Most reddit addiction stems from wanting to read comments, so I think people should add a comment to something if they're upvoting and they see that the thread has zero comments.

                                      Nothing eliminates enthusiasm like seeing 0 comments on every post in a community, especially if that community is driven by bots.

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                                      • U ulterno@programming.dev

                                        I advertised Lemmy to my friends a few times and they have now stopped replying to my messages 😛

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                                        OpenStars
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                                        #304

                                        Same. It greatly did not help that Google searching for "Lemmy" used to go straight to lemmy.ml (as the first hit to a specific instance, after the stuff about the singer), which if you take a look at without an account you will see shows "Local" rather than "All" posts.

                                        Just imagine: you sent a Westerner to a place that routinely and literally calls for the actual murder and downfall of all of Western society, with such posts peaking just before any election in a Western nation. YOU might block those types of posts, but I am explaining what the people that you mentioned Lemmy to almost surely saw? (although immediately after the USA election I started noticing a shift away from it being more confined to just the triad and instead spread more throughout the entire Threadiverse - MANY people now routinely call for the guillotine, with ever-decreasing ratio of joking to serious, and remember that can be shocking to mainstream people?)

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                                        • D dantel@programming.dev

                                          Yeah, it was sorted by active. Changed it to hot, let's see how that goes. Thanks for the hint.

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                                          mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip
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                                          Active is basically like old forum logic, where new comments will bump it up back to the top. Scaled is my go to view first as it does a pretty good job balancing out communities of widely different sizes, so smaller communities that you're subbed to have a chance of having their post be seen if it's new and larger in upvoter count.

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