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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

    ehh, there's spaces where adding stickers (that advocate for public-benefit, non-commercial stuff) is considered socially acceptable, such as in certain university buildings, pubs/bars, the back of your own laptop, ...

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    sortekanin@feddit.dk
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    Alright alright, definitely in those contexts there is no problem, of course.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

      edit: source for the graph

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      sine_fine_belli@lemmy.world
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      I agree! There is not enough people here

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      • H hyaline_cat@lemmy.world

        Goes to 'All --> New,' here we go again...

        Come on everyone, let's do our part. The only way to get less doom and gloom on the main page is to engage with the stuff you want early. Like it was mentioned by others, that primarily means comments not just upvotes

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        sine_fine_belli@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, same here. Let’s try to post more fun content on here

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        • mooglemaestro@lemmy.zipM mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip

          Hot take: the biggest issue is actually ever entering a community and seeing zero comments. Most reddit addiction stems from wanting to read comments, so I think people should add a comment to something if they're upvoting and they see that the thread has zero comments.

          Nothing eliminates enthusiasm like seeing 0 comments on every post in a community, especially if that community is driven by bots.

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          sine_fine_belli@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, same here honestly. Well said, lemmy needs more people here

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

            I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

            the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

            So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

            edit: source for the graph

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            krauerking@lemy.lol
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            Every person that keeps saying it's good that there is no one here sounds like scrooge in my head going,
            "Good, all to decrease the surplus population"

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            • rglullis@communick.newsR rglullis@communick.news

              In ActivityPub terms, there is no such thing as a "Mastodon posts" or "Lemmy communities". You just have "authors" and "audiences". In effect, it would mean that you emulate a "post to a community" by writting a post with the community as the "audience", and anyone that follows the actor that represents the group (equivalent to the Lemmy Community) would find the posts.

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              gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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              so you are saying that each author should represent their own community that they populate with posts each time they post something

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              • R realitista@lemmus.org

                To the user mines!

                I actually don't mind a smaller community of more intelligent people. Too much riff raff and the quality degrades.

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                sine_fine_belli@lemmy.world
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                I respectfully disagree with your opinion, there is not enough people here

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                • T thetesthuman@feddit.org

                  Im new here and the part you talk about feels the same as reddit at least here I feel like im not supporting that clusterfuck by being an advertisement target.

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                  krauerking@lemy.lol
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                  Yeah even reddit is fucked these days.

                  By the way note there is not always an easy way to find communities naturally so I would recommend thinking of some key words and searching for communities with them to fill in some niches

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                  • Z ziltoid1991@lemmy.world

                    Okay, now let's see Piefed and mbin users!

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                    lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                    If I had a nickel for each time someone reminds me that mbin exists, I'd have two nickels, which is not much but it is weird that it's happened twice.

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                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                      I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                      the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                      So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                      edit: source for the graph

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                      tangledhyphae@lemmy.world
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                      This site is seemingly for hardcore left-leaning people. Center and right wing are censored, banned, without violating rules, just like reddit mods. So it's no wonder people are leaving.

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                      • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                        Scaled is great for Subscribed, but I don't like Scaled+All

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                        lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                        Scaled+All is hell on earth, but to be be fair it's not its fault. It's just... what Scaled is there to do. Thus works wonders in Subscribed, I'd argue it even works wonder on local unless you specifically need newest local-relevant content (eg.: local news).

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                        • R reksas@sopuli.xyz

                          Someone in here already said it, but ‘Lemmy’ is a horrendous name. That alone was the reason why I didn’t bother to try it at all for a long time. Only recent events pushed me towards it but tbh I’m not sure I’ll stay.

                          You can say that again.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy

                          Really muddles up the search results about lemmy.

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                          lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                          Names are a discrete and contested domain and honestly I don't see how Lemmy being also a person is a hindrance. Coke is also a drug yet no one complains, certainly not the big corpo.

                          Protip: you can search for more than one word on search providers. Something like "lemmy social" or "lemmy server" for example.

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                          • Fair FairyS Fair Fairy

                            Well ya. But that requires all of us mentioning lemmy on Reddit and other platforms.

                            Those fucking reddit owners are sitting quiet now but comes election time they gonna silence dissent

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                            lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                            Last I checked people who mention Lemmy still get shadowbanned on Reddit? if so, mentioning thigs doesn't help.

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                            • T tangledhyphae@lemmy.world

                              This site is seemingly for hardcore left-leaning people. Center and right wing are censored, banned, without violating rules, just like reddit mods. So it's no wonder people are leaving.

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                              rooster326@programming.dev
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                              Yes that is the reason.

                              Not because of the many other reasons like we don't have an algorithm set to be as addicting as possible, dark patterns, rage bait, millions of dollars in marketing and astro-turfing, so many other things that go into your average popular social media network - there is a reason facebook has so many employees.

                              No no it's because right wingers get their fee fees hurt when people don't abide their rhetoric.

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                              • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                                If you've ever actually discoursed with Cowbee, note how they ignore the large majority of what you say and hyper-focus exclusively on the talking points that they are trying to convey. It's not a "conversation", it is evangelism.

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                                krauerking@lemy.lol
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                                note how they ignore the large majority of what you say and hyper-focus exclusively on the talking points that they are trying to convey

                                Thats like 9 out of 10 debates on Lemmy regardless of community. Everyone thinks they are the exception.

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                                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                  the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                  So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                  edit: source for the graph

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                                  brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                  …I am drifting away from Lemmy myself.

                                  Political communities are echo chambers like Reddit, in a different color. Discussing tech or helping others is better, but still feels like talking in circles.

                                  Wholesome subs like /c/SuperBowl are sublime, but I mostly lurk there.

                                  Information hygiene is awful. Big subs upvote tabloids and Tweets to the sky, as long as they align with their beliefs. I just saw a discussion on a not-obviously AI generated photo with the community sentiment of “misinformation? Who cares. It’s a pro-lefty meme, so spread it.”

                                  Anyway, all this scrolling and impulse commenting eats time. I get the same feeling of shouting into a black hole that I get on corporate social media.


                                  Much of this is my fault, though.

                                  I have several niches I intend to make original posts for, but never do.

                                  It’s somewhere in the giant pile of my IRL executive dysfunction :’(

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                                  • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                    …I am drifting away from Lemmy myself.

                                    Political communities are echo chambers like Reddit, in a different color. Discussing tech or helping others is better, but still feels like talking in circles.

                                    Wholesome subs like /c/SuperBowl are sublime, but I mostly lurk there.

                                    Information hygiene is awful. Big subs upvote tabloids and Tweets to the sky, as long as they align with their beliefs. I just saw a discussion on a not-obviously AI generated photo with the community sentiment of “misinformation? Who cares. It’s a pro-lefty meme, so spread it.”

                                    Anyway, all this scrolling and impulse commenting eats time. I get the same feeling of shouting into a black hole that I get on corporate social media.


                                    Much of this is my fault, though.

                                    I have several niches I intend to make original posts for, but never do.

                                    It’s somewhere in the giant pile of my IRL executive dysfunction :’(

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                                    randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                    This is it. People are leaving because there are problems and not enough resources to fix them. Because that's dEcEnTtAlZaTioN.

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                                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      so you are saying that each author should represent their own community that they populate with posts each time they post something

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                                      rglullis@communick.news
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                                      I am not sure whether "represent" is the right word here. What I mean is that all posts have a "recipient" (the audience).

                                      For Mastodon, you have public posts where the recipient is literally a "special" audience, called https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public. If you want to see a private message to alice, you just change the "audience" to contain only the https://example.com/alice actor URI.

                                      To post to a community, it's the same logic: if you are posting on fediverse@lemmy.world, then the message has "https://lemmy.world/c/fediverse" as the audience. This message is then sent to lemmy.world and processed.

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                                      • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                                        George Takei, Mark Hamill, ...

                                        If someone were to create a Markhamill@lemmy.world account, someone else can simply spin up a Markhamill@lemmings.world, and a Markhamill@Markhamilllemmy.world, and so on. Nobody is ever going to believe that any of those are actually Mark Hamill (especially since none are:-).

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                                        lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                        Doesn't Lemmy have any sort of profile cross-identification like Mastodon has?

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                                        • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                                          This is it. People are leaving because there are problems and not enough resources to fix them. Because that's dEcEnTtAlZaTioN.

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                                          brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                          Yeah. We have monkey brains, and overcoming intertia is hard.

                                          I think the site could be better structured to address this, specifically by organizing communities into a “taxonomy,” so posts from niche interest automatically filter up into bigger subs. Thus, participation would feel easier/more enaging, and folks would have more focused and active niches to participate in.

                                          Making that suggestion on the Lemmy/Piefed repos is on my messy todo list.

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