we need more users
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Yeah. Huge improvement and my other account is on piefed.social
Not having it from the beginning though, it helped create this issue in declining usership, which will kill the entire project if we don't address it.
I've lived through the birth growth and death of many former spaces which occupy a similar role as Lemmy. When users start to depart, its almost always destined for catastrophic collapse.
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Or maybe people just need to stop saying "Lemmy" and instead say "Voyager", or "Boost for Lemmy" or whatever app they would suggest to use?
It's like Linux, I don't suggest people to install Linux because that's not a thing, I suggest they install Bazzite or Fedora KDE, or whatever I think will suit them best
Most people would see "use Voyager or boost" to be akin to "use Reddit or Instagram". Because why would there be more than one app to connect to the app.
It's wrong, but any time you break from a standard assumption you require thinking. Once you require thinking, you lose anyone who isn't otherwise motivated.
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Most people would see "use Voyager or boost" to be akin to "use Reddit or Instagram". Because why would there be more than one app to connect to the app.
It's wrong, but any time you break from a standard assumption you require thinking. Once you require thinking, you lose anyone who isn't otherwise motivated.
Yea true.
I didn't mean you should tell people "use Voyager or Boost for Lemmy"
I meant you should tell people "use Voyager" or "use Boost for Lemmy" or whatever app you think they would like, but just 1
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…I am drifting away from Lemmy myself.
Political communities are echo chambers like Reddit, in a different color. Discussing tech or helping others is better, but still feels like talking in circles.
Wholesome subs like /c/SuperBowl are sublime, but I mostly lurk there.
Information hygiene is awful. Big subs upvote tabloids and Tweets to the sky, as long as they align with their beliefs. I just saw a discussion on a not-obviously AI generated photo with the community sentiment of “misinformation? Who cares. It’s a pro-lefty meme, so spread it.”
Anyway, all this scrolling and impulse commenting eats time. I get the same feeling of shouting into a black hole that I get on corporate social media.
Much of this is my fault, though.
I have several niches I intend to make original posts for, but never do.
It’s somewhere in the giant pile of my IRL executive dysfunction :’(
I get bummed that the political stuff has really taken over. I find myself spending more and more time just working on my own content and answering people's comments than browsing the other communities. It's draining scrolling past so much stuff to find the fun bits, but I don't want to just block it and not see how our platform is developing as a whole.
A lot of communities have rules that posts need to be titled the same as the source article, which, while it prevents editorializing, it also brings all those ragebait headlines here. Plus I'd like to see Lemmy users' opinions moreso than an article I could just read myself. I'd probably prefer more of the political post to be thoughts/feelings and then discussion is backed up by decent articles rather than an article being the post and comments are just all steered back to a single, often inflammatory article.
If half our content is just reposted mainstream media, why would one expect our comment sections to look any different than the comment sections of those mainstream sites?
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I'm going to tentatively upvote this. There's a good reason the left wingers on this platform sound bitter (myself included). The Overton Window has shifted right, so they're pretty much surrounded by toxic right-wing stuff on every other platform.
Still, it doesn't help Lemmy attract moderates.
What conservatives want is for us to treat them like babies with tiny little fragile baby beliefs that we have to coddle.
I don't care if you think differently than me, what I care about is babies demanding we take their hateful and irrational ideologies seriously while they simultaneously target vulnerable groups with at a minimum hate speech and harassment.
If we coddle conservatives this place becomes less welcoming to new people, that is how it is.
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Stop, stop it for a second. "Tankie"? It's probably just people with different ideas than yours. If you don't like to read what they have to say, block them, but please stop calling collective demeaning names to artificial groups of people.
Tankies are the communists who scream and harass anyone who isn't communist like them, and think anyone who doesn't believe what they believe is fascist and should be eliminated.
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What conservatives want is for us to treat them like babies with tiny little fragile baby beliefs that we have to coddle.
I don't care if you think differently than me, what I care about is babies demanding we take their hateful and irrational ideologies seriously while they simultaneously target vulnerable groups with at a minimum hate speech and harassment.
If we coddle conservatives this place becomes less welcoming to new people, that is how it is.
Yeah you're absolutely right. Though we are talking about two separate things here; OP and I are talking about "eat the rich" left rhetoric. Like people coming here and seeing comments like, "wheel out the guillotines", and "kill all CEOs".
You're talking about the fact that we shouldn't welcome conservative voices after they've ruined the rest of the internet. I absolutely 100% completely agree with you.
I'll give you an example; I'm more leftie than my wife. So it surprising to her when I said that people should be allowed to just punch Nazis with no legal ramifications. Like to her it was actually confronting to hear someone she knew advocate for violence. I explained my reasoning. They are corrosive to society's norms, and really need a different set of rules to regular people to be contained. The only language they understand is violence.
But the point is the average person is going to be immediately repulsed by calls for violence and extreme rhetoric, regardless of whether it is morally justified and the reasoning is technically correct.
So imagine a moderate "regular" person coming to this forum. Without the context of history that you and I have, how do they interpret these comments? Will they want to stay on Lemmy?
I'm not saying Lemmy should change, by the way. I have no problem with the rhetoric, and there's a case to be made that getting rid of it may make it easier for conservatives to get a foothold here. But it's worth a discussion, I guess.
And that all said, there's a chance that by "eat the rich" OP means anything complaining about the rich, in which case they can fuck off to their own instance.
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I don't "lick authoritarian boot" for supporting existing socialism, and the person you're replying to isn't me.
Is the "socialism" in the room with us right now?
I think you might have a different understanding of socialism than modern socialists. Yours seems more like a 1950s flavor of "socialism"
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Considering you think you're replying to me, I'm not a fascist, I'm a communist, same as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. There are no CPC agents pointing guns at me, I'm a communist that organizes in real life.
I also can't ban you anywhere, the only space I moderate is Hexbear's c/theory comm, which on a .world account you can't even see.
Marx, Engles, and Lenin did not support dictatorships
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I'm the same kind of socialist as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. I'm a Marxist-Leninist, communist, whatever you want to call me. I'm no Nazi, and equating Nazism with communism contributes to Double Genocide Theory, a form of Holocaust trivialization.
I'm also not banned here either, I can talk to you just fine. This is a conspiracy-theory with 0 evidence, I'm not sure why you believe it so strongly.
Marx, Engles, and Lenin did not support dictatorships
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My main account is @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net, I'm really not lying to you. But I feel honored to be compared to comrade Cowbee
Thank you for signing into your main account to reply to me.
If your ideology is valid you shouldn't have to make alts to force people to read your comments
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Marx, Engles, and Lenin did not support dictatorships
Neither do I. They all support the working class controlling the state, the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is what I support.
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Marx, Engles, and Lenin did not support dictatorships
Neither do I. They all support the working class controlling the state, the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is what I support.
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I have kind of the opposite experience. When I go on reddit, I feel depressed and angry, when I go on Lemmy I laugh and learn stuff. Probably the communities I subscribe to though. I get political and regional news from Reddit (and don't have an actual reddit account anymore). I get funny science and Star Trek memes from Lemmy and cyber security and tech news.
Where are you that you are having these experiences? I find Lemmy hard to explore.
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I doubt the latter - we are too small - but many are definitely alts for sure. Lemmy's lack of federation for moderator reports (either coming soon or only came recently I forget which) made that necessary.
.ml and hexbear are literal troll farms
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Is the "socialism" in the room with us right now?
I think you might have a different understanding of socialism than modern socialists. Yours seems more like a 1950s flavor of "socialism"
I have the same understanding of socialism as Marx, Engels, Lenin, and those who uphold them today. Cuba, Vietnam, the PRC, etc are all examples of socialism. Socialism is, at its simplest, public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes in control of the state.
Who are these "modern socialists?" Do you have a country you can point to, or perhaps an organization? Why are these "modern" socialists as compared to what I uphold?
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What do you think of a content filter setup when you register the account like this:
Effectively, when you click "no politics", it blocks the !News@lemmy.world, !politics@lemmy.world, !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, !pravda_news@news.abolish.capital communities and such.
What does it do when you select the middle option?
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Thank you for signing into your main account to reply to me.
If your ideology is valid you shouldn't have to make alts to force people to read your comments
Again, I'm not @Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com. You can check @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net's account and see that he writes in a similar style that is distinct from mine. While flattering, I'd actually appreciate if comrade vovchik_ilich didn't use my username as an alt-name, even if it isn't the same, because I don't like the idea of a cult of personality around me and because it can lead to confusion, like here.
I have 3 accounts: @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, @Cowbee@hexbear.net, and @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml. I used to have a lemm.ee account that I abandoned before making my Lemmy.ml account, made my Hexbear alt a long while after, and a Grad account very recently. I only use Lemmy.ml when interacting with any federated instance, and scroll Grad and Hexbear locally.
All that being said, you have no evidence that I have multiple accounts, nor can you actually argue against the points being made. This is just conspiracy-theory nonsense.
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Thank you for signing into your main account to reply to me.
If your ideology is valid you shouldn't have to make alts to force people to read your comments
I don't make alt accounts to force anyone to do anything. I've explained you that Hexbear is a safe space without transphobia of Zionism, and I'm glad it's mostly defederated and I'm not exposed to cognitohazard of such levels.
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Again, I'm not @Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com. You can check @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net's account and see that he writes in a similar style that is distinct from mine. While flattering, I'd actually appreciate if comrade vovchik_ilich didn't use my username as an alt-name, even if it isn't the same, because I don't like the idea of a cult of personality around me and because it can lead to confusion, like here.
I have 3 accounts: @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, @Cowbee@hexbear.net, and @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml. I used to have a lemm.ee account that I abandoned before making my Lemmy.ml account, made my Hexbear alt a long while after, and a Grad account very recently. I only use Lemmy.ml when interacting with any federated instance, and scroll Grad and Hexbear locally.
All that being said, you have no evidence that I have multiple accounts, nor can you actually argue against the points being made. This is just conspiracy-theory nonsense.
Oh hey buddy, sorry, I didnt mean to stir up stuff around your username. I'll delete the account to prevent further confusion.
![Cowbee [he/they]](https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c18ce632-5fb5-4888-8226-3dc55a07acc4.jpeg "Cowbee [he/they]"){kind=avatar}
