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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

    Maybe turning mastodon and pixelfed tags into communities and figuring out how to better integrate there would provide more and interesting content

    yeah, i've been thinking about the same thing. how to properly embed mastodon content into Lemmy? Maybe one community for each poster? Is that the right approach?

    Or should one Mastodon hashtag turn into one Lemmy community?

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    This is something I think whatever lemmy 2.0 is going to be really needs to focus on.

    Just be a content aggregator for ALL of the fediverse. Everything. One feed.

    Or maybe more clever ways of integrating. But right now, we're still relying on video mostly from YT (not peertube) and screenshots of things happening on mastodon. We need more connective tissue.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

      Maybe turning mastodon and pixelfed tags into communities and figuring out how to better integrate there would provide more and interesting content

      yeah, i've been thinking about the same thing. how to properly embed mastodon content into Lemmy? Maybe one community for each poster? Is that the right approach?

      Or should one Mastodon hashtag turn into one Lemmy community?

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      #757

      Interestingly each community shows up kind of like a user in Mastodon.

      I think hashtags should be communities but I can see from an ActivityPub POV that would be difficult to dynamically create. Worth while though.

      It also makes sense that a mastodon user should kind of look like a community or a maybe user in Lemmy but I personally don't like following people and much rather follow topics.

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      • OpenStarsO OpenStars

        PieFed helps solve that with categories of communities, and also by gathering together all comments across all cross-posts. Seriously, it's an enormous difference, check it out, e.g. on PieFed.social.

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        Thank you so much! I'll keep that in mind and I'll learn more to teach others about it!

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        • V vurr@lemmy.today

          Imagine being so biased that you are completely blind to the facts.

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          slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
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          Since you do not understand even the smallest aspect of what I said, you are not in a position to make such a judgment.

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          • V vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            Since when are dbzero users racists?

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            slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
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            #760

            Fascists. Authoritarians. Whatever you want to call them. I’ll explain. They submitted a proposal to ban all “Zionists or Zionist apologists” and I objected on the grounds that it is, objectively, the very fascism they were denouncing. They banned me simply for suggesting this. That’s what I’m talking about.

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            • B bbboi@feddit.uk

              Wow. This is top notch cringe.

              Everybody is stupid except me

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              anon518@sh.itjust.works
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              #761

              Not everyone, but definitely you.

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              • S slappyfuck@lemmy.ca

                Fascists. Authoritarians. Whatever you want to call them. I’ll explain. They submitted a proposal to ban all “Zionists or Zionist apologists” and I objected on the grounds that it is, objectively, the very fascism they were denouncing. They banned me simply for suggesting this. That’s what I’m talking about.

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                vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Banning fascism isn't fascism though. This doesn't make any sense.

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                • V vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Banning fascism isn't fascism though. This doesn't make any sense.

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                  slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
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                  #763

                  Banning ideas and opinions is not banning fascism. But let’s start over. First, they banned me. All I did was say that banning people for having the opinion “Israel should exist as an entity” is authoritarian. I wasn’t even defending Israel, which, like I said, people should be allowed to do as part of normal freedom of speech.

                  Second, I didn’t even say anything extreme, like “you should be hanged for treason!” or some such nonsense. I said “you have the right to ban people for whatever you want since it’s your instance, but I think that’s fascist if you do so.” And they banned me. Do you think that’s even remotely normal behavior?

                  Banning people for their behavior and conduct is perfectly reasonable. Also, if some Israel defender comes in and says “I don’t care how many children need to be killed, it’s worth it,” then I think you have every right to ban them. Advocating murder is crazy shit. But simply saying “Israel has a right to exist” or something similar as being ban worthy? That’s absolute ghoulish authoritarianism. There’s no such thing as “banning fascism” because this is just a discussion forum.

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                  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

                    We got tankies on here, though. Not much better.

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                    ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                    #764

                    Too bad centrists think everyone with any criticism whatsoever of anything they do is a tankie.

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                    • D dudesss@lemmy.ca

                      Oh, I don't think I've witnessed one here.

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                      ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                      #765

                      You probably haven't. It's just a word centrists throw around when they want to defederate from instances they don't like for being to their left.

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                      • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                        Too bad centrists think everyone with any criticism whatsoever of anything they do is a tankie.

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                        tattorack@lemmy.world
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                        #766

                        Haven't seen that happen yet.

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                        • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

                          Haven't seen that happen yet.

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                          ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                          #767

                          That speaks more to your lack of criticism.

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                          • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                            and now PieFed supports moving posts! https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1653370/piefed-1-5-is-released-move-posts-upload-video-files-better-chat-and-more

                            So Piefed admins/mods could consolidate communities by moving the posts before deleting the community

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                            oh that's a great feature

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                            • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                              Oh hey, it's worth noting that that particular screengrab is taken out of context and was deliberately intended to make me appear that way. I even concede that one can disagree with Marx and Engels, my point was more against those who claim to agree with them but strongly disagree with the socialist market economy of China. I oppose anyone that tries to treat theory like gospel, that's why I usually don't reference theory directly unless it's directly relevent like it was in this case.

                              That's the thing, people propagandize about us as well, like the MeanwhileOnGrad crowd that took that snippet out of context. You're doing the same here, by extrapolating an entire behavior of me from a single, out-of-context snippet hosted in a Nazi bar. What's important is that we actually pay attention to what others are saying, because everyone is guilty of thinking they are correct.

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                              goat@sh.itjust.works
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                              But you are a tankie, cowbee. Why do you keep denying this?

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                              • P pudutr0n@lemmy.world

                                Fair enough. Just grabbed one of the first images a search threw. Sorry if it was out of context or portrayed you unfairly. And of course people propagandize about you too. Anyone with a strong enough voice will get bad faith critiques thrown against them and many will be with political intent.

                                I do think this is a fair example to exemplify the point I was trying to make, though. Your quote being out of context does not nullify its dychotomical political intent and makes my point stronger.

                                Propaganda is hard to identify when you're predisposed to believe it, it's everywhere and people propagate it without even noticing.

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                                Don't let Cowbee propagandise you, that's what he's known for, even Tankies celebrate him for it.

                                He doesn't argue in good faith, either, don't believe such nonsense. Just have a look at all the other community posts about his extremism, bigotry and hatred. He's a Tankie full and through and one of the major reasons why Lemmy is destined to fail.

                                For example, I humbly ask you to challenge Cowbee on his views of North Korea and Putin. You'll find he is openly supportive of both.

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                                • KoarnineK Koarnine

                                  Posted as a reply because this will certainly upset many but...

                                  On the instance wars:

                                  I constantly see nonsense about the horrors of the '.ML' instance, and 'hexbear', primarily from 'Lemmy.world' users, but I have never once actually come across these horrors.

                                  Hexbear is just a troll instance, ala 'cumtown'.

                                  To an outside observer, '.world' users seem to be US propagandists intent on wrecking the platform. "Tankies this, cowbee that", when I've never seen a cowbee post that wasn't entirely reasonable.

                                  And the vast majority of 'tankies' are just people who criticise the US rightfully while not sharing the same breathe to criticize China.
                                  Ngl, fuck Russia, the US and Russia are the greatest evils. China is not anywhere near the same level. You can praise elements of a foreign state without being a 'tankie'.

                                  It's the same thought terminating cliche cult bullshit that all right wingers do. And it seems to come from Americans being upset their myopic views aren't babied by people who literally specifically went to an instance to avoid them?

                                  Idk I'm not a user of any of the three, but I've only ever had an issue with lemmy.world users in the past, as a UK citizen who is far from a tankie.

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                                  Explodingheads was also self-proclaimed a troll instance. Just because they fall back on 'It's just a joke!" doesn't make what they say or do okay.

                                  I recommend you check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for a deep look at Tankies and how prevalent they are throughout Lemmy.

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                                  • goat@sh.itjust.worksG goat@sh.itjust.works

                                    Don't let Cowbee propagandise you, that's what he's known for, even Tankies celebrate him for it.

                                    He doesn't argue in good faith, either, don't believe such nonsense. Just have a look at all the other community posts about his extremism, bigotry and hatred. He's a Tankie full and through and one of the major reasons why Lemmy is destined to fail.

                                    For example, I humbly ask you to challenge Cowbee on his views of North Korea and Putin. You'll find he is openly supportive of both.

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                                    pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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                                    I know @Cowbee@lemmy.ml doesn't argue in good faith. You're not arguing in good faith either. If you wanna internet argument fight the dude, I just pinged him for you, but before you do I suggest both of you consider the words of mustache man: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster."

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                                    • P pudutr0n@lemmy.world

                                      I know @Cowbee@lemmy.ml doesn't argue in good faith. You're not arguing in good faith either. If you wanna internet argument fight the dude, I just pinged him for you, but before you do I suggest both of you consider the words of mustache man: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster."

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                                      Honestly I don't think there's such a thing as good faith when it comes to political discussions on the internet. I'm not going to argue with him either, I don't consider it worthy of my time.

                                      What's good faith to you? To me, it's admitting mistakes.

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                                      • goat@sh.itjust.worksG goat@sh.itjust.works

                                        Honestly I don't think there's such a thing as good faith when it comes to political discussions on the internet. I'm not going to argue with him either, I don't consider it worthy of my time.

                                        What's good faith to you? To me, it's admitting mistakes.

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                                        pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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                                        To me, good faith is the genuine will to understand and/or convey ideas fairly and honestly.

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                                        • P pudutr0n@lemmy.world

                                          To me, good faith is the genuine will to understand and/or convey ideas fairly and honestly.

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                                          goat@sh.itjust.works
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                                          #775

                                          I agree, but I don't think fairness or honesty really exists anymore. Or rather, there's no incentive for people to engage in such.

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