Over 50% of game developers now think generative AI is bad for the industry, a dramatic increase from just 2 years ago: 'I'd rather quit the industry than use generative AI'
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That's because it's trying to replace paid skilled workers who are entitled to benefits and rights. Of course it's bad for the industry. Still not going to stop greedy executives from pushing for it.
Its also just trash thats never needed. Coding games is based in variables not complicated enough to need AI in the first place just a lot of work and playtesting.
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Its also just trash thats never needed. Coding games is based in variables not complicated enough to need AI in the first place just a lot of work and playtesting.
I think you have it backwards. Coding games is complicated, and that's why AI can't be used to code them effectively.
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Unlike something that is made to solve a problem, AI is a poor solution looking for problems. It will never be useful unless there is a problem it actually solves, and the problems it does solve are all anti-worker and pro-capitalist. AI does not make anyone's lives better.
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I'm working towards starting my own indie studio. Games are made for people to experience people emotions and it takes a person to be able to understand them in a way that can be accurately conveyed. When I make my studio there will be no generative AI, not in the product not in development. Probably there is a way to use it to streamline some stuff and I'd argue it's difficult but possible to use it ethically but why the fuck would I want a computer to do my art for me? Why would I want to rob myself or my team of the opportunity to express themselves to other humans?
I made an AI generated cupcake recipe a while back. It was fine, it covered the bases, ratios were more or less correct, if someone were to give me one I'd eat it and not complain. But it was a technically correct cupcake not a good cupcake. It had no love, you could tell it had no love. People joke about that but it's a real thing there's something extra humans can do that AI can't yet and maybe never will be able to, or not in a way humans relate with well. We've known how to make games with no love for a while now, that's capitalism, but AI let's us freeze dry the love out of everything at scale and the companies behind them are telling us that's a good thing. Fuck that I'm not buying into it. I don't make games for money, I barely make games for other people, tbh it isn't even that fun most the time, I make games because it's what makes the most sense to me for self expression. Games are what I know how to pour the most love into and an AI won't help me with that.
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managers are more likely to use generative AI than their employees
Is this not the case for any industry?
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I'm working towards starting my own indie studio. Games are made for people to experience people emotions and it takes a person to be able to understand them in a way that can be accurately conveyed. When I make my studio there will be no generative AI, not in the product not in development. Probably there is a way to use it to streamline some stuff and I'd argue it's difficult but possible to use it ethically but why the fuck would I want a computer to do my art for me? Why would I want to rob myself or my team of the opportunity to express themselves to other humans?
I made an AI generated cupcake recipe a while back. It was fine, it covered the bases, ratios were more or less correct, if someone were to give me one I'd eat it and not complain. But it was a technically correct cupcake not a good cupcake. It had no love, you could tell it had no love. People joke about that but it's a real thing there's something extra humans can do that AI can't yet and maybe never will be able to, or not in a way humans relate with well. We've known how to make games with no love for a while now, that's capitalism, but AI let's us freeze dry the love out of everything at scale and the companies behind them are telling us that's a good thing. Fuck that I'm not buying into it. I don't make games for money, I barely make games for other people, tbh it isn't even that fun most the time, I make games because it's what makes the most sense to me for self expression. Games are what I know how to pour the most love into and an AI won't help me with that.
Good luck hiring developers that won't code with AI.
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Good luck hiring developers that won't code with AI.
I am a programmer and I do not use AI, I'm going to school with some programmers who also do not use AI (some do some don't). I don't need luck to find like minded people.
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Good luck hiring developers that won't code with AI.
I write code for 80-90% of my job. Fuck using AI for code.
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Unlike something that is made to solve a problem, AI is a poor solution looking for problems. It will never be useful unless there is a problem it actually solves, and the problems it does solve are all anti-worker and pro-capitalist. AI does not make anyone's lives better.
There are many problems "AI" solves. It's an excellent tool ... for dynamic interfaces, or doing low-risk automation that has very dynamic inputs, or data analysis...
What it's NOT good at is being creative or logical. It literally cannot do either of those things. Ever. Yet that's what every fucking brainless executive is trying to use it for...
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The market is going to be flooded with so much slop. It'll be incredibly difficult for regular game developers to get any sort of budget to compete. I'm not even against AI being used in games, just the inevitable lowest common denominator slop that we'll end up with
We as consumers need to find a way to reward quality games
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I'm working towards starting my own indie studio. Games are made for people to experience people emotions and it takes a person to be able to understand them in a way that can be accurately conveyed. When I make my studio there will be no generative AI, not in the product not in development. Probably there is a way to use it to streamline some stuff and I'd argue it's difficult but possible to use it ethically but why the fuck would I want a computer to do my art for me? Why would I want to rob myself or my team of the opportunity to express themselves to other humans?
I made an AI generated cupcake recipe a while back. It was fine, it covered the bases, ratios were more or less correct, if someone were to give me one I'd eat it and not complain. But it was a technically correct cupcake not a good cupcake. It had no love, you could tell it had no love. People joke about that but it's a real thing there's something extra humans can do that AI can't yet and maybe never will be able to, or not in a way humans relate with well. We've known how to make games with no love for a while now, that's capitalism, but AI let's us freeze dry the love out of everything at scale and the companies behind them are telling us that's a good thing. Fuck that I'm not buying into it. I don't make games for money, I barely make games for other people, tbh it isn't even that fun most the time, I make games because it's what makes the most sense to me for self expression. Games are what I know how to pour the most love into and an AI won't help me with that.
Heck yeah!! Make sure you post here when its started!
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That’s because they didn’t think they were gonna get layed off before and that what they do is special therefore they’re safe. Now it’s “you’re not firing me! I’m quitting!”
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Its also just trash thats never needed. Coding games is based in variables not complicated enough to need AI in the first place just a lot of work and playtesting.
The words of someone that has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
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The words of someone that has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
I can tell when someone who wants to talk about something they've never done personally and act like they have knowledge about something they've never done personally.
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There are many problems "AI" solves. It's an excellent tool ... for dynamic interfaces, or doing low-risk automation that has very dynamic inputs, or data analysis...
What it's NOT good at is being creative or logical. It literally cannot do either of those things. Ever. Yet that's what every fucking brainless executive is trying to use it for...
AI can already write scripts on par with or better than most of what hollywood shits out.
Five Nights at Freddy's, Minecraft, Roblox, Repo, Lethal Company, all look and play like they were made by AI. It won't be long until users genuinely can't tell the difference.
This is mostly due to the fact that audiences have no standards for the media that they consume.
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AI can already write scripts on par with or better than most of what hollywood shits out.
Five Nights at Freddy's, Minecraft, Roblox, Repo, Lethal Company, all look and play like they were made by AI. It won't be long until users genuinely can't tell the difference.
This is mostly due to the fact that audiences have no standards for the media that they consume.
lol good job advertising your own abysmal media literacy...
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The market is going to be flooded with so much slop. It'll be incredibly difficult for regular game developers to get any sort of budget to compete. I'm not even against AI being used in games, just the inevitable lowest common denominator slop that we'll end up with
We as consumers need to find a way to reward quality games
...flooded with so much more slop...
Ftfy. I thought all the generic trophy farming and 'x game maker' games were slop enough. Its so difficult to wade through all rebadged same concepts ive given up on all the markets and just go through the reviews, and even those are bad enough.
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There are many problems "AI" solves. It's an excellent tool ... for dynamic interfaces, or doing low-risk automation that has very dynamic inputs, or data analysis...
What it's NOT good at is being creative or logical. It literally cannot do either of those things. Ever. Yet that's what every fucking brainless executive is trying to use it for...
That version of 'ai' that solves stuff is usually rooted in more traditional computing methods and concepts of ai, than what theyre currently throwing money at, though.
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Yeah, Charlie Kaufman is actually the one who mentioned AI being able to take the place of hollywood writers because they're all so shit and fans have no standards.
https://consequence.net/2023/08/charlie-kaufman-ai-garbage-sag-aftra-strike/
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That version of 'ai' that solves stuff is usually rooted in more traditional computing methods and concepts of ai, than what theyre currently throwing money at, though.
Not really. It's still just a pile of linear algebra. That's why it doesn't think or reason or actually understand what it's outputting.
That's why all this chasing by executives is a MASSIVE folly: The tech is literally incapable of doing what they think it can.
