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  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

    Those two links are 2 years and 9 months old.

    The Threadiverse gets regularly okay feedback on Reddit, as show the several posts on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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    Ah, searching is super difficult on Bluesky but I finally managed to find something relevant using Google and the site: function. Here is what it had to say in https://bsky.app/profile/lagotrasimeno.bsky.social/post/3lzwma6eg7k2l:

    New here
    Just exploring some alternatives to the always more nazi-like policies and TOS of Reddit and X.
    So far I've tried Mastodon (which is dead btw) and Lemmy, the so-called best alternative to Reddit whose community is even more toxic than the original.
    This seems pretty chill 🤷 maybe too much?

    (Bold emphasis added)

    I am not trying to be negative, at least not for its own sake. This is legitimately what I see that people are saying about us here. Certainly not all of them to be fair - some people on other platforms love us here - but from the perspective of diagnosing why are many people leaving, and what do they say about us when they do, this is the top #1 cited reason that I have seen: our toxicity. And I cannot think of any better example of that than hexbear.net, which is why I am such a fan of either outright defederation if that is the only option, or at least making that instance opt-in rather than force it to be opt-out, which apparently seems to cause many people to flee us and go either back to Reddit or to Bluesky or whatever, hence opting out of the entire Threadiverse. Basically: either hexbear goes, or the newbie users do. And even that is only a start to reducing our overall toxicity level as presented to newbie users, though PieFed at least has several wonderful tools to help with that built-in already:-).

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    • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

      A post from 2 days ago presented a graph that showed an important variation in the active userbase: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/52565659

      Using the daily rather than monthly view on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 shows a much stable line (especially if you take into account Piefed's growth: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 )

      Going through the comments in the other posts, a few recommendations that can help with the overall experience

      • use different feeds: either using different Lemmy/Mbin accounts (one account per type of content), or Piefed personal feeds, but being able to browse different feeds such as "Good news", "Hobbies", "Art", "Life advice" help to see more content than politics and tech

      • discover communities: subscribe to !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and !newcommunities@lemmy.world to add active communities to your feeds

      • go to general communities rather than specific ones: the current user base only allows so much specialization. Your favorite city builder community may not exist, but !citybuilders@sh.itjust.works does. !stationery@lemmy.world and !pen_and_paper@lemmy.world may be inactive, but !journaling@sh.itjust.works is not.

      • use a client that allows for comments consolidation: I don't remember which mobile apps does it (Sync, I think?), Piefed has that feature built-in too. It allows to see all comments on a cross-post in the same view: https://piefed.zip/c/privacy/p/928874/worst-in-show-ces-products-include-ai-refrigerators-ai-companions-and-ai-doorbells#post_replies

      • report toxic users and avoid communities that do not handle your reports: quite a few comments mentioned that issue in the other thread. Mods can't see everything, reporting helps to keep the atmosphere of a community enjoyable.

      • use a client that implements keyword filters: quite a few mobile apps and alternative Lemmy front-ends do, Piefed has it built in. It can really help avoid the "doom and gloom" overwhelming your feed.

      Finally, a few communities recommendations for lighthearted communities

      • !casualconversation@piefed.social
      • !goodnewseveryone@piefed.social
      • !wholesome@reddthat.com
      • !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
      • !dullsters@dullsters.net / !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world
      • !twogoobers@lemmy.zip
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      #69

      @Blaze The last 3 things you mentioned are good tips for the fediverse in general, not just lemmy/piefed 😉

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      • B brachiosaurus@mander.xyz

        People who keep using reddit are idiots, simple as that.

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        chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        #70

        Someone's gotta stay behind to tell people to check out Lemmy

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        • B bazell@lemmy.zip

          By my experience, Reddit has some influence from government that they unofficially confirmed. And Reddit admins(not even talking about moderators) are actively promoting some political ideas in their actions. Like, protecting ICE and mass murders in Gaza. The most interesting thing is that this mostly works in large comunities, because of in small ones you will not see such thing except for rare occasions.
          This also affects their filters. In one subreddit your comment will trigger ban, while in some others the same quote will have no effect at all. This is really annoying.

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          #71

          I could criticize China right now, here in this community on Lemmy.world, but if I did so in a community on Lemmy.ml I would get banned from not only the entire instance but from communities that I've never so much as heard of. We have censorship here too.

          And we have toxicity here as well. As too does Reddit. It is a little odd to hear Redditors of all people complain about toxicity:-). Maybe they were used to smaller communities on Reddit, avoiding the big ones, but then here with far less content you pretty much have to subscribe to the large communities (like is there another one talking about the Fediverse besides this one that is more worthwhile?), where the toxicity is more visible?

          I don't know, I haven't wanted to actually talk to people on Reddit for several years now:-).

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          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

            !lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world is inactive, we spent a while promoting the !wholesome@reddthat.com to decentralize from LW.

            Same for !upliftingnews@lemmy.world and !goodnewseveryone@piefed.social .

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            #72

            People seem to still be posting to them though? Like Lady Butterfly made 6 posts to the latter one just today alone. And much of that content does not look to be reposted anywhere else, like this post in the former community:

            img

            You might want to shut those old ones down then if people are not supposed to be using them anymore?

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            • OpenStarsO OpenStars

              I could criticize China right now, here in this community on Lemmy.world, but if I did so in a community on Lemmy.ml I would get banned from not only the entire instance but from communities that I've never so much as heard of. We have censorship here too.

              And we have toxicity here as well. As too does Reddit. It is a little odd to hear Redditors of all people complain about toxicity:-). Maybe they were used to smaller communities on Reddit, avoiding the big ones, but then here with far less content you pretty much have to subscribe to the large communities (like is there another one talking about the Fediverse besides this one that is more worthwhile?), where the toxicity is more visible?

              I don't know, I haven't wanted to actually talk to people on Reddit for several years now:-).

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              bazell@lemmy.zip
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              #73

              Well, I agree that there are some specialized comunities for people that want to believe in 1 idea. Like Lemmy.ml. And if you don't want to be the part of a brainwashed herd, you either leave by yourself or get banned. This is normal. I am talking about the active platform wide banning regardless of comunity. I don't see such thing on Lemmy unless you are really harming the platform like mass spamming or sharing dangerous software. On Reddit you no longer can have a normal conversation, since you can get banned not only by a toxic mod but also by shitty AI system. And then you cannot even expect for the appeal to be normally processed by a human, since either they are also being reviewed by AI or the workers are too lazy to properly work(which is quite relatable since there are thousands of appeals and not enough workers because of a greedy management).

              Due to the decentralization on Lemmy, even if you get banned from even 2 or 3 instances, you still have a lot of parts of platform available for you. While on Reddit your ban affects you and your account dramatically. Especially, if you are not paying them for the pro version.

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              • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                People seem to still be posting to them though? Like Lady Butterfly made 6 posts to the latter one just today alone. And much of that content does not look to be reposted anywhere else, like this post in the former community:

                img

                You might want to shut those old ones down then if people are not supposed to be using them anymore?

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                wrote last edited by blaze@piefed.zip
                #74

                !wholesome@reddthat.com is the active community, it's !lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world that's inactive

                !goodnewseveryone@piefed.social is supposed to be active, we prefer it to !upliftingnews@lemmy.world

                About your last question, every time we suggest to lock down communities people come and start arguing that locking communities makes us like Reddit

                https://piefed.zip/post/507615#post_replies

                I've dealt with enough of those discussions in the past, I don't want to deal with that kind of drama again.

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                • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                  Has anything changed since a year ago in this regard though? Tankies are still here, lemmy.ml not defederated from anywhere, hexbear almost disappeared but managed to come back. We made discuss.online a better landing space for newbies, but now the shift is more towards PieFed, which I mentioned several thoughts about in a separate thread.

                  Not only on Reddit, even on Lemmy there are a bunch of people bashing on the tankies being present on Lemmy, in that community e.g. in the recent discussion at https://piefed.zip/c/fedibridge/p/795307/r-redditalternatives-comments-ask-for-alternatives-piefed-and-lemmy-are-mentioned-a-few-ti, like this comment:

                  That’s the problem, they do manipulate it. There was a thread a while back that showed how ml basically shows up as one of the random instances to join, like 95% of the time. So it’s not actually random.

                  We can say all we like how we wish that it were not a problem, but people on Reddit seem to disagree and not want to join regardless. Though I have noticed that either positive or negative opinions are very rarely delivered these days in r/RedditAlternatives. I wonder if people are simply tired of the subject and now just tune it out like noise. If so, then we missed a major opportunity to offer a true alternative to Reddit. Hopefully there will be more, and I am not suggesting to give up, only trying to highlight a major issue of concern so that we can move forward.

                  Chiefly imho, by recommending PieFed rather than Lemmy instances (and strongly preferably one that defederates from hexbear).

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                  !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works is a very toxic community as well, you don't see SJW defederated from most instances.

                  Lemmy.ml is defederated from infosec.pub and lemmy.cafe.

                  Piefed having actual instance blocking at the user level make defederation less of an issue.

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                  • Jonas :rainbow_heart:K Jonas :rainbow_heart:

                    @Blaze The last 3 things you mentioned are good tips for the fediverse in general, not just lemmy/piefed 😉

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #76

                    Indeed, but on this community we tend to focus on the Threadiverse

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                    • N Nightwatch Admin

                      It’s been 6 hours, may I out of friendly nature inquire after the hopefully most entertaining intercourse with @Klear@quokk.au? I trust it was most fulfilling?

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                      #77

                      Nah, he kept screaming and it kinda ruined the mood =/

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                      • WioumW Wioum

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                        jimmy90@lemmy.world
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                        #78

                        it's going to take more than that

                        the lemmy line is going down much faster than the piefed line is going up

                        looks like losing 1500 users per quarter when you take both into account

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                        • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                          The difference, one would assume, is that on the whole, Reddit's political biases influence more what is not shown (much like lemmy.ml banning people for any criticism of Russia, China, or North Korea, or the echo chamber in hexbear), whereas Lemmy's tankie issue also manifests as people actively sea-lioning (e.g. Cowbee) and (especially from hexbear) overt trolling, which shows up more in people's faces. Both are issues, neither are good.

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                          #79

                          Your Don Quixote RP in this thread is going really well, congrats!

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                          • V Vegan_Joe

                            I honestly like the small, eclectic vibe better.

                            I don't know what the number is, but I'll arbitrarily say, anywhere under a quarter million is perfect.

                            I know the federation model provides a strength against the cascading list negatives that plague popular platforms, but I don't doubt that with a large enough user base, exploits would certainly seep in, particularly with ease of AI bot manipulation and astroturfing.

                            It reminds me of the Linux saying "security through obscurity".

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                            vga@sopuli.xyz
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                            #80

                            Reddit has so much more content and frankly 80% of their real non-bot userbase seem to be ok. Wouldn't hurt at all to get like 10% of the best of them here. That'd be about 5 million people.

                            Ok, now that I think about it, 70k => 5M would probably hurt the servers a bit.

                            Let's go for the top 1%, we all love the top 1% right?

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                            • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                              A post from 2 days ago presented a graph that showed an important variation in the active userbase: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/52565659

                              Using the daily rather than monthly view on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 shows a much stable line (especially if you take into account Piefed's growth: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 )

                              Going through the comments in the other posts, a few recommendations that can help with the overall experience

                              • use different feeds: either using different Lemmy/Mbin accounts (one account per type of content), or Piefed personal feeds, but being able to browse different feeds such as "Good news", "Hobbies", "Art", "Life advice" help to see more content than politics and tech

                              • discover communities: subscribe to !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and !newcommunities@lemmy.world to add active communities to your feeds

                              • go to general communities rather than specific ones: the current user base only allows so much specialization. Your favorite city builder community may not exist, but !citybuilders@sh.itjust.works does. !stationery@lemmy.world and !pen_and_paper@lemmy.world may be inactive, but !journaling@sh.itjust.works is not.

                              • use a client that allows for comments consolidation: I don't remember which mobile apps does it (Sync, I think?), Piefed has that feature built-in too. It allows to see all comments on a cross-post in the same view: https://piefed.zip/c/privacy/p/928874/worst-in-show-ces-products-include-ai-refrigerators-ai-companions-and-ai-doorbells#post_replies

                              • report toxic users and avoid communities that do not handle your reports: quite a few comments mentioned that issue in the other thread. Mods can't see everything, reporting helps to keep the atmosphere of a community enjoyable.

                              • use a client that implements keyword filters: quite a few mobile apps and alternative Lemmy front-ends do, Piefed has it built in. It can really help avoid the "doom and gloom" overwhelming your feed.

                              Finally, a few communities recommendations for lighthearted communities

                              • !casualconversation@piefed.social
                              • !goodnewseveryone@piefed.social
                              • !wholesome@reddthat.com
                              • !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
                              • !dullsters@dullsters.net / !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world
                              • !twogoobers@lemmy.zip
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                              shiroininja@lemmy.world
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                              Lemmy is the only Corporate social media replacement I've stuck to for years. I've never gone back to reddit. I don't need it. I like the vibes here and it's just busy enough to suit my needs without allowing me to doomscroll nonstop new content.

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                              • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                A post from 2 days ago presented a graph that showed an important variation in the active userbase: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/52565659

                                Using the daily rather than monthly view on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 shows a much stable line (especially if you take into account Piefed's growth: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 )

                                Going through the comments in the other posts, a few recommendations that can help with the overall experience

                                • use different feeds: either using different Lemmy/Mbin accounts (one account per type of content), or Piefed personal feeds, but being able to browse different feeds such as "Good news", "Hobbies", "Art", "Life advice" help to see more content than politics and tech

                                • discover communities: subscribe to !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and !newcommunities@lemmy.world to add active communities to your feeds

                                • go to general communities rather than specific ones: the current user base only allows so much specialization. Your favorite city builder community may not exist, but !citybuilders@sh.itjust.works does. !stationery@lemmy.world and !pen_and_paper@lemmy.world may be inactive, but !journaling@sh.itjust.works is not.

                                • use a client that allows for comments consolidation: I don't remember which mobile apps does it (Sync, I think?), Piefed has that feature built-in too. It allows to see all comments on a cross-post in the same view: https://piefed.zip/c/privacy/p/928874/worst-in-show-ces-products-include-ai-refrigerators-ai-companions-and-ai-doorbells#post_replies

                                • report toxic users and avoid communities that do not handle your reports: quite a few comments mentioned that issue in the other thread. Mods can't see everything, reporting helps to keep the atmosphere of a community enjoyable.

                                • use a client that implements keyword filters: quite a few mobile apps and alternative Lemmy front-ends do, Piefed has it built in. It can really help avoid the "doom and gloom" overwhelming your feed.

                                Finally, a few communities recommendations for lighthearted communities

                                • !casualconversation@piefed.social
                                • !goodnewseveryone@piefed.social
                                • !wholesome@reddthat.com
                                • !nicememes@sopuli.xyz
                                • !dullsters@dullsters.net / !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world
                                • !twogoobers@lemmy.zip
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                                Wow a blurry graph...I cant read a single thing on this is it just me or something?

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                                • B brachiosaurus@mander.xyz

                                  People who keep using reddit are idiots, simple as that.

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                                  crypticcoffee@lemmy.ml
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                                  No, they just don't have the same principles as us. I love Lemmy, but it doesn't have the same level of smaller active communities. There is more work for us to do.

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                                  • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                                    Always claims of sea-lioning, but never any evidence. You've had me blocked for over a year now, why continue this crusade?

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                                    I've come across some people who have no idea what "sealioning" even means. There used to be a hb user "Ulysses" or something, like three years ago, who accused me of doing it after I replied to their reply to my reply, and that's the only conversation we'd ever had. I pulled up the definition of sealioning and the comic which the word originated from, and they just say "no that's not true, stop sealioning".

                                    I feel like some people just think sealioning means "this person keeps replying to my posts", as if conversations on a public forum are somehow uncalled for, or unusual.

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                                    • C crypticcoffee@lemmy.ml

                                      No, they just don't have the same principles as us. I love Lemmy, but it doesn't have the same level of smaller active communities. There is more work for us to do.

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                                      brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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                                      No, they just don’t have the same principles as us.

                                      Reddit has being shit for a decade, if you have the wrong principles is because you are fine with that

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                                        I've come across some people who have no idea what "sealioning" even means. There used to be a hb user "Ulysses" or something, like three years ago, who accused me of doing it after I replied to their reply to my reply, and that's the only conversation we'd ever had. I pulled up the definition of sealioning and the comic which the word originated from, and they just say "no that's not true, stop sealioning".

                                        I feel like some people just think sealioning means "this person keeps replying to my posts", as if conversations on a public forum are somehow uncalled for, or unusual.

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                                        It's a real thing, for sure, but more often than not is used as a conversation terminator.

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                                        • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                          !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works is a very toxic community as well, you don't see SJW defederated from most instances.

                                          Lemmy.ml is defederated from infosec.pub and lemmy.cafe.

                                          Piefed having actual instance blocking at the user level make defederation less of an issue.

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                                          goat@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Meanwhileongrad is only a toxic community if you go into the community to argue in favour of tankie talking points or otherwise defend them.

                                          If you believe that violence and bigotry isn't okay then you won't encounter toxicity.

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