Kit Harington was ‘Genuinely Angered’ By Fan Petition to Remake ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 8 With ‘Competent Writers’
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The part that's worth talking about, to me, is how creators and their audience can occasionally be on such different pages. What happens to the creative process to make that happen? Is it indicative of a deeper ill with the industry?
HBO is known for taking big swings and they used to depend on the fact that it didn't matter how many of their shows sucked because eventually they'd make a GoT or The Wire, so it's not weird to see one of their shows suck or be amazing... but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
HBO could kind of do that because they were THE premium channel and how a significant chunk of the US market actually watched movies.
Even by GOT? E'RYBODY was showing titties. Hell, I want to say AMC even was getting to push the envelope a bit? And Starz were outright hanging dong more often than not at that point (I will die on the hill that Spartacus was better written, better acted, and respected the audience more). And it was similarly around the time people were on to their bullshit (see SNL's "It's not Porn, it's HBO" skit).
And with Netflix and Amazon both spinning up their own studios? It isn't a surprise HBO reached the point that its branding was taken off the streaming service.
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this show failed to convince me that i need to give a flying fuck what happens next at the end of S2, and it's really weird to me that people are still talking about it a generation later
What’s not to enjoy? Incest + creative torture and murder. That’s an 8 season idea right there.
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I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
Sophie Turner has had a decent run of mid-tier high budget movies (the jennifer lawrence xmen movies) and I think is the new live action Lara Croft?
Robb Stark was in that show about the bodyguard who banged the president while calling her "mum" the entire time? I hear that was good? And he has pivoted that into even more pseudo-spy dramas?
Kit was one of the less offensive things about Marvel's Eternals. Allegedly. Nobody watched it.
But I think it is also important to remember how a lot of these major franchises go. Most of the cast are hired REAL young because they are basically signing a contract to be in something for a decade or more. The known greats are wary of that and are going to want a lot more money and may just bail. See Elizabeth Olsen in the MCU where she clearly decided she was done with that shit. And that is why it tends to be less "Wow, so and so was a great actor" and more "So... both the leads of Twilight kind of just became known for really quirky low budget films they took because they are already set for life monetarily?"
Sometimes you get lucky? Most of the time you don't. And you rely on your supporting cast to carry the production. And most of the GoT supporting cast were already known amazing talent with established careers who just continued doing their own thang after the fact.
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I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
True and it's a shame because Emilia Clarke seems to put her all into everything she acts in, but she's had some REALLY cheesy movies since GoT... Last Christmas, Me Before You, and Marvel's Secret Invasion series
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What’s not to enjoy? Incest + creative torture and murder. That’s an 8 season idea right there.
you can go to pornhub for the first two things, and just look at news if you enjoy murder.
why bother with all the soap opera shit
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I wonder if someone's formalized an axiom that in any internet forum post about something popular, someone will feel the need to not add to the conversation but to declare that they personally didn't like it and that it's bizzare others did.
It's a strange impulse but you see it over and over again.
I'm guilty of that but i always do it when i actually hated something and I'm politely downplaying how shite I thought it was.
I think this is essentially a statistics thing; any online collection of people will tend to have a normal distribution spread from hate to love for the subject matter.
The person who hates it the most will fill an environmental niche when they see nobody has said it yet. But we have to work with the environment:
- a generally-neutral comments section leaves only room to politely dismiss/critique one or two select aspects of a show.
- a generally positive one allows people at the RHS ("LOVE") of the normal distribution free reign to gas it up, but only affords to the biggest hater in the room, enough space to say "well it was mid. It was alright i guess. It was overrated."
- likewise a generally-negative comment section will see people who only disliked it start to convince themselves that they HATED it, while the few who LOVED it have to pretend it's "just alright" for fear of persecution
So now you see, U7826391786239 is a trailblazer; his negative-in-intent-but-ultimately-rather-ambivalent comment demonstrates typical no-man's land behaviour. With this comment he has spread his seed over the virgin soil of this online ecosystem and allowed the great debate to begin again on whether GoT is a good show or not
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I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
Peter Dinklage was good in Roofman
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He didn't say he was surprised, though.
Maybe he was mad about the "competent" part? Because, the writers showed they were competent, so they apparently just DGAF in the last season.
Was it because AT&T purchased it at the time and tried to turn it into Netflix?
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"popular"
man, you should see how i talk about trump supporters
You can debate the merits of the show but to give one of the most watched shows in history a "popular" just makes you look like a goof.
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Peter Dinklage was good in Roofman
He pissed even more on GoT fans.
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You can debate the merits of the show but to give one of the most watched shows in history a "popular" just makes you look like a goof.
https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html
kanye is one of the most listened to musics. fuck him too
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Peter Dinklage was good in Roofman
New dexter too
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Sophie Turner has had a decent run of mid-tier high budget movies (the jennifer lawrence xmen movies) and I think is the new live action Lara Croft?
Robb Stark was in that show about the bodyguard who banged the president while calling her "mum" the entire time? I hear that was good? And he has pivoted that into even more pseudo-spy dramas?
Kit was one of the less offensive things about Marvel's Eternals. Allegedly. Nobody watched it.
But I think it is also important to remember how a lot of these major franchises go. Most of the cast are hired REAL young because they are basically signing a contract to be in something for a decade or more. The known greats are wary of that and are going to want a lot more money and may just bail. See Elizabeth Olsen in the MCU where she clearly decided she was done with that shit. And that is why it tends to be less "Wow, so and so was a great actor" and more "So... both the leads of Twilight kind of just became known for really quirky low budget films they took because they are already set for life monetarily?"
Sometimes you get lucky? Most of the time you don't. And you rely on your supporting cast to carry the production. And most of the GoT supporting cast were already known amazing talent with established careers who just continued doing their own thang after the fact.
Gwendoline Christie making tunes with Sleaford Mods and Big Special is the best thing I've seen:
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Logan was good, Masie was okay in it. Uhh...yeah.
she was not in that.
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The part that's worth talking about, to me, is how creators and their audience can occasionally be on such different pages. What happens to the creative process to make that happen? Is it indicative of a deeper ill with the industry?
HBO is known for taking big swings and they used to depend on the fact that it didn't matter how many of their shows sucked because eventually they'd make a GoT or The Wire, so it's not weird to see one of their shows suck or be amazing... but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
I don't know. Hollywood, in it's entirety, sucks and amazes to the max. Like... that's literally their thing.
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https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html
kanye is one of the most listened to musics. fuck him too
Why would you compare GoT to Kanye?
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you can go to pornhub for the first two things, and just look at news if you enjoy murder.
why bother with all the soap opera shit
What TV do you like, exactly?
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i'm not comparing those two things. i'm pointing out that the "it's popular = it must be good" argument is obviously ridiculous when you apply it to kanye. or any other terrible thing that's "popular"
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Sophie Turner has had a decent run of mid-tier high budget movies (the jennifer lawrence xmen movies) and I think is the new live action Lara Croft?
Robb Stark was in that show about the bodyguard who banged the president while calling her "mum" the entire time? I hear that was good? And he has pivoted that into even more pseudo-spy dramas?
Kit was one of the less offensive things about Marvel's Eternals. Allegedly. Nobody watched it.
But I think it is also important to remember how a lot of these major franchises go. Most of the cast are hired REAL young because they are basically signing a contract to be in something for a decade or more. The known greats are wary of that and are going to want a lot more money and may just bail. See Elizabeth Olsen in the MCU where she clearly decided she was done with that shit. And that is why it tends to be less "Wow, so and so was a great actor" and more "So... both the leads of Twilight kind of just became known for really quirky low budget films they took because they are already set for life monetarily?"
Sometimes you get lucky? Most of the time you don't. And you rely on your supporting cast to carry the production. And most of the GoT supporting cast were already known amazing talent with established careers who just continued doing their own thang after the fact.
Eternals was also Robb Stark, not Kit. It was not a good film.
