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Kit Harington was ‘Genuinely Angered’ By Fan Petition to Remake ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 8 With ‘Competent Writers’

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  • S Skavau

    What TV do you like, exactly?

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    u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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    lately, nothing. i've been marathoning what i grew up with, star trek" TOS, TNG, DS9, voyager-- i tried to get into the "newer" ones, but they're meh to me. i was initially interested in orphan black and squid game, but they got tedious and i lost interest

    generally speaking i'll avoid investing a single microsecond in a show until a) it's 100% completed; and b) people don't fucking hate the ending--which, apparently isn't the case with GoT

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    • D dehaga@feddit.uk

      Peter Dinklage was good in Roofman

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      bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      And the new Toxic Avenger

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      • U u7826391786239@lemmy.zip

        lately, nothing. i've been marathoning what i grew up with, star trek" TOS, TNG, DS9, voyager-- i tried to get into the "newer" ones, but they're meh to me. i was initially interested in orphan black and squid game, but they got tedious and i lost interest

        generally speaking i'll avoid investing a single microsecond in a show until a) it's 100% completed; and b) people don't fucking hate the ending--which, apparently isn't the case with GoT

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        Skavau
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        I mean GOT still at least had 6 highly received seasons. I don't think the ending degrades GOT as a series.

        I also don't think there's anything especially wrong with gravitating towards media content that explores dark or violent themes in writing (seemingly a partial objection of yours to GOT?)

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        • S Skavau

          Well to be clear, Kanye's recent music material output aside and awful public behaviour - his musical content is absolutely highly acclaimed historically by listeners and critics.

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          u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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          highly acclaimed historically by listeners and critics.

          if that's a good enough reason for you, then that's what it is. from my perspective, "listeners and critics" factor 0% into what i consider to be worth my time

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          • F finjaminpoach@lemmy.world

            True and it's a shame because Emilia Clarke seems to put her all into everything she acts in, but she's had some REALLY cheesy movies since GoT... Last Christmas, Me Before You, and Marvel's Secret Invasion series

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            VeganBtw
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            She seems to be a very nice person, but to me, she had the weakest performances of almost anyone on the show. Could be a me problem, but the scenes with her always just broke my suspension of disbelief. The only thing worse was seeing Ed Sheeran...

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            • U u7826391786239@lemmy.zip

              highly acclaimed historically by listeners and critics.

              if that's a good enough reason for you, then that's what it is. from my perspective, "listeners and critics" factor 0% into what i consider to be worth my time

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              Skavau
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              I don't really like hip hop (generally), I was just noting the reputation if we're observing general reputation. Whereas in music terms, something like Imagine Dragons (for example) simply doesn't have that critical reputation.

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              • A alekwithak@lemmy.world

                Logan was good, Masie was okay in it. Uhh...yeah.

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                essell@lemmy.world
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                She was great in Dr Who

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                • S Skavau

                  I mean GOT still at least had 6 highly received seasons. I don't think the ending degrades GOT as a series.

                  I also don't think there's anything especially wrong with gravitating towards media content that explores dark or violent themes in writing (seemingly a partial objection of yours to GOT?)

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                  u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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                  I don’t think the ending degrades GOT as a series.

                  the ending is the most important part. what's the point of any of it if it's not leading up to something? i have no problem with darkness or violence, but to claim those things as a unique or groundbreaking thing in defense of the show is what's goofy to me. i mean it has boobies too. yea, and...?

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                  • U u7826391786239@lemmy.zip

                    I don’t think the ending degrades GOT as a series.

                    the ending is the most important part. what's the point of any of it if it's not leading up to something? i have no problem with darkness or violence, but to claim those things as a unique or groundbreaking thing in defense of the show is what's goofy to me. i mean it has boobies too. yea, and...?

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                    Skavau
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                    It depends on how much quality there is prior to it to me. Endings do weaken the show overall to varying degrees if they are badly done or rushed, but there's a lot of great content along-the-way.

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                    • S Skavau

                      I don't really like hip hop (generally), I was just noting the reputation if we're observing general reputation. Whereas in music terms, something like Imagine Dragons (for example) simply doesn't have that critical reputation.

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                      u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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                      yea, i know. GoT is popular. and so far, the reasons i've seen people giving for it being popular is that "it's popular"

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                        butwhyishischinabook
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                        Then Kit is genuinely an idiot. How could you be surprised by the reaction to season 8??

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                        • L lunchbox2287@lemmy.world

                          Eternals was also Robb Stark, not Kit. It was not a good film.

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                          uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website
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                          It was both, kit was in it for like 5 total minutes and was in the scene mid or post credits with blade.

                          Richard Madden was a main character tho and had way more screen time.

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                          • U u7826391786239@lemmy.zip

                            yea, i know. GoT is popular. and so far, the reasons i've seen people giving for it being popular is that "it's popular"

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                            Skavau
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                            It's also considered a very good adaptation, great writing, great acting etc (until end of S04, or end of S06 depending who you ask) in its own right. There's a reason it did attain popularity in the first place.

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                            • S Skavau

                              It's also considered a very good adaptation, great writing, great acting etc (until end of S04, or end of S06 depending who you ask) in its own right. There's a reason it did attain popularity in the first place.

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                              u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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                              fair enough. enjoy S8

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                              • U u7826391786239@lemmy.zip

                                https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html

                                kanye is one of the most listened to musics. fuck him too

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                                auth@lemmy.world
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                                Thats a bad comparison. Kayne's music is very well respected.

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                                  Thats a bad comparison. Kayne's music is very well respected.

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                                  u7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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                                  the entire point of this whole thread is "popular" does NOT automatically equal "good"

                                  if your reasoning is that the music (or the show, or the painting, or whatever tf you want) is respected because "it's respected," then you're doing literally nothing to support your position

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                                  • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                                    I'll never get tired of the people who whinge about that.

                                    Yes, the quality of the show took a major nosedive after they ran out of written material. In large part because they had to constantly jump from Event to Event and had a hard time building up the nuance that connected those.

                                    You know what? They should have put everyone in cryofreeze and waited until Martin finished the books. He'll have the next one any day now... He just needs to figure out the logistics of getting characters from point A to point B while still having time to add the nuance and connective tissue that would make that make sense.

                                    Wait a moment....

                                    People also don't realize how incredibly valuable it is to effectively have a global focus group to figure out what worked and what didn't in a story by looking at the reaction to book scenes before filming.

                                    But nah. The issue is clearly all HBO and Benioff and Weiss.

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                                    Talaraine
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                                    It really IS Martin's fault. NuXCOM is right, but to act like HBO, Benioff and Weiss actually GAF is laughable. B&W were off signing new deals while the whole thing crashed. Not saying it would be EASY to find a shadow writer capable of bridging the gap but it sure doesn't look like they tried.

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                                    • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                                      I'll never get tired of the people who whinge about that.

                                      Yes, the quality of the show took a major nosedive after they ran out of written material. In large part because they had to constantly jump from Event to Event and had a hard time building up the nuance that connected those.

                                      You know what? They should have put everyone in cryofreeze and waited until Martin finished the books. He'll have the next one any day now... He just needs to figure out the logistics of getting characters from point A to point B while still having time to add the nuance and connective tissue that would make that make sense.

                                      Wait a moment....

                                      People also don't realize how incredibly valuable it is to effectively have a global focus group to figure out what worked and what didn't in a story by looking at the reaction to book scenes before filming.

                                      But nah. The issue is clearly all HBO and Benioff and Weiss.

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                                      Malgas
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                                      That analysis doesn't seem to explain the parts of the show that sucked not for lack of good source material, but because they just ignored it. Dorne, for example.

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                                      • A alekwithak@lemmy.world

                                        I don't know how to respond to that. I feel like I'm being Mandelad pretty hard right now.

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                                        TachyonTele
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                                        Dafne Keen was the girl in Logan.

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                                        • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                                          I'll never get tired of the people who whinge about that.

                                          Yes, the quality of the show took a major nosedive after they ran out of written material. In large part because they had to constantly jump from Event to Event and had a hard time building up the nuance that connected those.

                                          You know what? They should have put everyone in cryofreeze and waited until Martin finished the books. He'll have the next one any day now... He just needs to figure out the logistics of getting characters from point A to point B while still having time to add the nuance and connective tissue that would make that make sense.

                                          Wait a moment....

                                          People also don't realize how incredibly valuable it is to effectively have a global focus group to figure out what worked and what didn't in a story by looking at the reaction to book scenes before filming.

                                          But nah. The issue is clearly all HBO and Benioff and Weiss.

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                                          ElcaineVolta
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                                          "they made it bad on purpose" is a new one to me.

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