Kit Harington was ‘Genuinely Angered’ By Fan Petition to Remake ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 8 With ‘Competent Writers’
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the entire point of this whole thread is "popular" does NOT automatically equal "good"
if your reasoning is that the music (or the show, or the painting, or whatever tf you want) is respected because "it's respected," then you're doing literally nothing to support your position
I dont think I need to show evidence to support my statement, its common knowledge and I wouldnt expect anyone to try and dispute that Kayne's music isnt considered good or respected.
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I don't know how to respond to that. I feel like I'm being Mandelad pretty hard right now.
Masie was in New Mutants, which was very mediocre.
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It was both, kit was in it for like 5 total minutes and was in the scene mid or post credits with blade.
Richard Madden was a main character tho and had way more screen time.
I have no memory of this. I must have blocked it out.
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Peter Dinklage was good in Roofman
The Dinkman was fairly successful before GoT, though.
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https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html
kanye is one of the most listened to musics. fuck him too
What logical argument did I make that invoked the show's popularity?
I pointed out the fact that the show is/was popular.
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the entire point of this whole thread is "popular" does NOT automatically equal "good"
if your reasoning is that the music (or the show, or the painting, or whatever tf you want) is respected because "it's respected," then you're doing literally nothing to support your position
the entire point of this whole thread is “popular” does NOT automatically equal “good”
Who on Earth has made that arhument?
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I don't know how to respond to that. I feel like I'm being Mandelad pretty hard right now.
Maybe you’re thinking of The New Mutants?
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Then Kit is genuinely an idiot. How could you be surprised by the reaction to season 8??
He wants in on Rowling's crap, so I'm going to have to say he's a fucking dipshit.
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He didn't say he was surprised, though.
Maybe he was mad about the "competent" part? Because, the writers showed they were competent, so they apparently just DGAF in the last season.
Competent when they were making a screenplay from amazing novels. Not so much when they had to go it alone.
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Imagine somebody demanding that you go remake something you made 7 years ago.
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Sophie Turner has had a decent run of mid-tier high budget movies (the jennifer lawrence xmen movies) and I think is the new live action Lara Croft?
Robb Stark was in that show about the bodyguard who banged the president while calling her "mum" the entire time? I hear that was good? And he has pivoted that into even more pseudo-spy dramas?
Kit was one of the less offensive things about Marvel's Eternals. Allegedly. Nobody watched it.
But I think it is also important to remember how a lot of these major franchises go. Most of the cast are hired REAL young because they are basically signing a contract to be in something for a decade or more. The known greats are wary of that and are going to want a lot more money and may just bail. See Elizabeth Olsen in the MCU where she clearly decided she was done with that shit. And that is why it tends to be less "Wow, so and so was a great actor" and more "So... both the leads of Twilight kind of just became known for really quirky low budget films they took because they are already set for life monetarily?"
Sometimes you get lucky? Most of the time you don't. And you rely on your supporting cast to carry the production. And most of the GoT supporting cast were already known amazing talent with established careers who just continued doing their own thang after the fact.
Rose Leslie (Ygritte, Snow's wildling live interest) has anthe lead in the Time Traveler's Wife (series remake). It's a little cheesy, but I did enjoy it very much and the ratings are quite OK
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i think the "creators," i.e. owners, producers, shareholders don't really care either. deliver the product, that's it. obviously quality doesn't matter, because if it did, then the quality wouldn't be absolute dogshit. but here we are, talking about it, which is really the end goal, isn't it? keep people talking about it. and i didn't even watch the damn thing. mission accomplished!
If you're not having fun talking about it, nobody's making you... But, you can make your own decisions.
There's always that tension between creatives (artists) and the profit motive. It's true for show runners, just as it is for small Etsy artists. Part of the artistry is pretending one wants to do what must be done, in order to recover a sense of genuine expression without losing the means to continue. Maybe that's the difference between amateurs and professionals. A good showrunner must humble themselves in both directions at once - to the suits, and to their audience - and even then they will fail, unless they can convince us that's what they wanted to do all along.
When mistakes are made and you lose your audience, it is all too easy to blame them for not liking it. A good comedian doesn't argue with a crowd that isn't laughing, obviously the only opinion that matters is theirs. You dig yourself out of that hole by admitting it and moving on. That's what's unprofessional (in the sense stated earlier) of the GoT team - not to take any criticism onboard. It will only limit their future creative to have that mindset. That's the part that matters, who cares if it was profitable to the suits?
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HBO could kind of do that because they were THE premium channel and how a significant chunk of the US market actually watched movies.
Even by GOT? E'RYBODY was showing titties. Hell, I want to say AMC even was getting to push the envelope a bit? And Starz were outright hanging dong more often than not at that point (I will die on the hill that Spartacus was better written, better acted, and respected the audience more). And it was similarly around the time people were on to their bullshit (see SNL's "It's not Porn, it's HBO" skit).
And with Netflix and Amazon both spinning up their own studios? It isn't a surprise HBO reached the point that its branding was taken off the streaming service.
They've lost their niche in recent years, it's true. Another casualty of "progress" just like episodic TV. Nowadays every showrunner thinks they can tell us "don't worry, it gets good in an hour or two of screen time", and as long as it's captured the spotlight by the season finale, they've still got a job. Time wasters!
