Kit Harington was ‘Genuinely Angered’ By Fan Petition to Remake ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 8 With ‘Competent Writers’
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Harington, who starred in the HBO drama as Jon Snow, told the Times that he was in rehab when the final “Game of Thrones” season premiered. When he got out, he was shocked by the overwhelming negativity
First of all thanks to the author, because I was like “who?” I thought he was a writer for a moment.
And second, it sounds like there were a lot of reasons the last season didn’t go well.
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He obviously didn't watch it.
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“How dare you have the opinion that lousy writing is lousy!”
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What an absurd thing to be genuinely angry about. And considering his other work he's probably going to want to get used to people not enjoying his efforts.
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this show failed to convince me that i need to give a flying fuck what happens next at the end of S2, and it's really weird to me that people are still talking about it a generation later
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I don't see how that could work. I don't even think that starbucks still make those cups.
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"You know nothing"
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this show failed to convince me that i need to give a flying fuck what happens next at the end of S2, and it's really weird to me that people are still talking about it a generation later
I wonder if someone's formalized an axiom that in any internet forum post about something popular, someone will feel the need to not add to the conversation but to declare that they personally didn't like it and that it's bizzare others did.
It's a strange impulse but you see it over and over again.
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this show failed to convince me that i need to give a flying fuck what happens next at the end of S2, and it's really weird to me that people are still talking about it a generation later
The part that's worth talking about, to me, is how creators and their audience can occasionally be on such different pages. What happens to the creative process to make that happen? Is it indicative of a deeper ill with the industry?
HBO is known for taking big swings and they used to depend on the fact that it didn't matter how many of their shows sucked because eventually they'd make a GoT or The Wire, so it's not weird to see one of their shows suck or be amazing... but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
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What an absurd thing to be genuinely angry about. And considering his other work he's probably going to want to get used to people not enjoying his efforts.
I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
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I wonder if someone's formalized an axiom that in any internet forum post about something popular, someone will feel the need to not add to the conversation but to declare that they personally didn't like it and that it's bizzare others did.
It's a strange impulse but you see it over and over again.
"popular"
man, you should see how i talk about trump supporters
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I'll never get tired of the people who whinge about that.
Yes, the quality of the show took a major nosedive after they ran out of written material. In large part because they had to constantly jump from Event to Event and had a hard time building up the nuance that connected those.
You know what? They should have put everyone in cryofreeze and waited until Martin finished the books. He'll have the next one any day now... He just needs to figure out the logistics of getting characters from point A to point B while still having time to add the nuance and connective tissue that would make that make sense.
Wait a moment....
People also don't realize how incredibly valuable it is to effectively have a global focus group to figure out what worked and what didn't in a story by looking at the reaction to book scenes before filming.
But nah. The issue is clearly all HBO and Benioff and Weiss.
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I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
Logan was good, Masie was okay in it. Uhh...yeah.
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The part that's worth talking about, to me, is how creators and their audience can occasionally be on such different pages. What happens to the creative process to make that happen? Is it indicative of a deeper ill with the industry?
HBO is known for taking big swings and they used to depend on the fact that it didn't matter how many of their shows sucked because eventually they'd make a GoT or The Wire, so it's not weird to see one of their shows suck or be amazing... but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
i think the "creators," i.e. owners, producers, shareholders don't really care either. deliver the product, that's it. obviously quality doesn't matter, because if it did, then the quality wouldn't be absolute dogshit. but here we are, talking about it, which is really the end goal, isn't it? keep people talking about it. and i didn't even watch the damn thing. mission accomplished!
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He didn't say he was surprised, though.
Maybe he was mad about the "competent" part? Because, the writers showed they were competent, so they apparently just DGAF in the last season.
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The part that's worth talking about, to me, is how creators and their audience can occasionally be on such different pages. What happens to the creative process to make that happen? Is it indicative of a deeper ill with the industry?
HBO is known for taking big swings and they used to depend on the fact that it didn't matter how many of their shows sucked because eventually they'd make a GoT or The Wire, so it's not weird to see one of their shows suck or be amazing... but it's certainly memorable when they make one that does both.
HBO could kind of do that because they were THE premium channel and how a significant chunk of the US market actually watched movies.
Even by GOT? E'RYBODY was showing titties. Hell, I want to say AMC even was getting to push the envelope a bit? And Starz were outright hanging dong more often than not at that point (I will die on the hill that Spartacus was better written, better acted, and respected the audience more). And it was similarly around the time people were on to their bullshit (see SNL's "It's not Porn, it's HBO" skit).
And with Netflix and Amazon both spinning up their own studios? It isn't a surprise HBO reached the point that its branding was taken off the streaming service.
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this show failed to convince me that i need to give a flying fuck what happens next at the end of S2, and it's really weird to me that people are still talking about it a generation later
What’s not to enjoy? Incest + creative torture and murder. That’s an 8 season idea right there.
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I can't recall anything good any of the leading stars have been in after GoT.
Sophie Turner has had a decent run of mid-tier high budget movies (the jennifer lawrence xmen movies) and I think is the new live action Lara Croft?
Robb Stark was in that show about the bodyguard who banged the president while calling her "mum" the entire time? I hear that was good? And he has pivoted that into even more pseudo-spy dramas?
Kit was one of the less offensive things about Marvel's Eternals. Allegedly. Nobody watched it.
But I think it is also important to remember how a lot of these major franchises go. Most of the cast are hired REAL young because they are basically signing a contract to be in something for a decade or more. The known greats are wary of that and are going to want a lot more money and may just bail. See Elizabeth Olsen in the MCU where she clearly decided she was done with that shit. And that is why it tends to be less "Wow, so and so was a great actor" and more "So... both the leads of Twilight kind of just became known for really quirky low budget films they took because they are already set for life monetarily?"
Sometimes you get lucky? Most of the time you don't. And you rely on your supporting cast to carry the production. And most of the GoT supporting cast were already known amazing talent with established careers who just continued doing their own thang after the fact.
