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Overwatch 2 Is Just 'Overwatch' Again And Five New Heroes Arrive Next Week

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    Being a rehash/continuation of the same game was the case since Overwatch 2 came out as they dropped the PvE plans, so it wouldn't be news.

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    Ephera
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    Well, there might've been some change that made it even more like the original, which could've prompted such a title either way...

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    • Z zotethemighty@lemmy.zip

      But not Global Offensive.

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      doublah@sopuli.xyz
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      Global Offensive is still playable (at least the core gameplay) in the csgo_legacy branch of CS2 on Steam.

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      • M magiccupcake@lemmy.world

        I wouldn't know anything about that, but with respect to the overwatch team, they don't seem to be implicated in that controversy.

        Example

        I can't imagine the fight for equality in game dev is over, but at the same time I haven't heard anything particularly controversial. If you have other evidence of wrong doing do let me know.

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        Grail
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        Huh, thanks.

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          MolochAlter
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          "Jetpack cat"? Really? That desperate, huh?

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          • VogiV Vogi

            Overwatch is close to being a decade old btw.

            It’s so unfortunate what they did to Overwatch, wonder how Jeff Kaplan and the original Team feels about all that.

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            poopfeast420@lemmy.zip
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            As great as Jeff was, he's the one that did all the stuff to Overwatch.

            As far as I've heard/read he was never really interested in making a PVP game, he wanted to make Titan, the MMO. Then he got another chance with OW2 and the PVE mode, and even got an offer to make a separate dev team that would focus on PVP, so he could put his all into PVE, but declined, so the game was left to die (even though it never really died). Then PVE in OW2 was a bust again and he left.

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            • P princeofsloth@lemmy.zip

              man, games are taken so seriously these days that they resort to smurfing.

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              rigatti
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              It's been that way for a long time. The term smurfing, I think, originated with Warcraft II.

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              • RickyRigatoniR RickyRigatoni

                What if someone made the hytale of terraria?

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                Goodeye8
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                The reason Hytale exists is and is popular is because outside of exploration (and creative mode) Minecraft kinda sucks. The combat is boring, the enemy variations (including bosses) are pretty limited, the survival element is trivialized within the first hour of the game, the progression is weird (to put it nicely). There's so much to improve over Minecraft that something like Hytale or Vintage Story (which goes so far in the other direction that a comparison with Minecraft or Hytale becomes pointless) can exist.

                The same isn't true for Terraria. Terraria has taken its originally simplistic combat and turned it into something relatively deep with different classes all with their own unique twist to combat. The enemy variations are through the roof with not only different types of enemies depending on the biome but also depending on your progression. And the progression is the core of the game. The reason to play is to get good gear to beat a strong boss to get better gear to beat even stronger bosses. And finally there's variety in building, automation and fishing. Terraria is a far more complete game than Minecraft which is why you're never going to see the Hytale of Terraria.

                Terraria does its thing so well you can't just take everything Terraria does and do it better. You can only take things Terraria does well and do something different with it, like Core Keeper, Don't Starve or Valheim. If you try to take everything Terraria does but do it bigger and better you're going to end up with Starbound.

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                • rigattiR rigatti

                  It's been that way for a long time. The term smurfing, I think, originated with Warcraft II.

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                  holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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                  It was an a****** dude that no one wanted to play against in high-ranking ladders because everyone knew his name because he was a f****** a******.

                  So he made two accounts. One called Papa Smurf and the other smurfette. Then proceeded to s*** on low-ranking. Players made fun of them and was he general a****** till everyone learned those names and started avoiding him as well.

                  Smurfing since its inception has been fundamentally something only assholes do where this whole purpose of being an a******.

                  Ranked systems only work if everybody only has one account. It's also why most games restrict you to only one account for ranked purposes.

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                  • The Picard ManeuverT The Picard Maneuver

                    I gave up on this game a long time ago. It took me longer than it should've to realize that "old blizzard" is gone and not coming back.

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                    shanmugha@lemmy.world
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                    Years for me. I spent years before realizing that I'm never getting a good matchmaker

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                    • poopfeast420@lemmy.zipP poopfeast420@lemmy.zip

                      As great as Jeff was, he's the one that did all the stuff to Overwatch.

                      As far as I've heard/read he was never really interested in making a PVP game, he wanted to make Titan, the MMO. Then he got another chance with OW2 and the PVE mode, and even got an offer to make a separate dev team that would focus on PVP, so he could put his all into PVE, but declined, so the game was left to die (even though it never really died). Then PVE in OW2 was a bust again and he left.

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                      Vogi
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                      Oh, I have never heard of that. Also forgot that he was still around when OW2 launched. Still believe it sucks big time to see a project go down this route especially after being such a big success. It might not be dead, but it definitely is just a shell of its past.

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                        Mwa
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                        #69

                        just play TF2 or marvel rivals at this point

                        edit: maybe TF2 Is the better option(and its mods)

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                        • rigattiR rigatti

                          Because it's free to play and it's supposed to be a deterrent to smurfing.

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                          imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Smurfing was probably a side-effect. I remember their main reasoning was to ban people who trash talk in voice comms/chat so they cant just create new account using same number.

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                          • MwaM Mwa

                            just play TF2 or marvel rivals at this point

                            edit: maybe TF2 Is the better option(and its mods)

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                            jumi@lemmy.world
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                            TF2 is a different game and Rivals is definitely not as good in areas that matter like gameplay and maps

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                            • E Ephera

                              I mean, there's already Starbound...

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                              railcar8095@lemmy.world
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                              In comparison, starbound feels soooooooooo dire of content.

                              The races being just a different skin felt so lazy. I thought there would be at least food bonuses.

                              Funnily enough, starbound is also 1.4.5, but the whole changelog from 1 is lesser than Terrarias last update.
                              No individual update seemed like a justification for a new run.

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                                enterpries@sh.itjust.works
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                                Fuck whatever morons think dumb shit like this is acceptable:

                                I swear, everybody is such a goddamn sellout these days.

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                                  enterpries@sh.itjust.works
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                                  These look like generic Chinese-overwatch characters.

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                                  • rigattiR rigatti

                                    It's been that way for a long time. The term smurfing, I think, originated with Warcraft II.

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                                    duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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                                    The games I played didn't have ranking. It was better.

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                                    • MwaM Mwa

                                      just play TF2 or marvel rivals at this point

                                      edit: maybe TF2 Is the better option(and its mods)

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                                      thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                                      I play Marvel Rivals almost every day. Compared to Overwatch, it's more casual and fun oriented, not that balanced at all. And its in third person, not first person. While Rivals has some Overwatch energy and can be played as a replacement, it is not a full replacement. And no other of these games will probably reach peak Overwatch and does not have the same charm.

                                      BTW I recently installed Team Fortress 2 Classified, a mod that got its own Steam store page. It has lot of stuff from early TF2 days recreated and looks very interesting. Still need to try it out.

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                                      • P princeofsloth@lemmy.zip

                                        why does this game ask for my phone no. to play?

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                                        thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                                        I hate that shit. But there is actually a reason for. It's part of their ongoing battle against cheaters or bad actors, as the game is free to play.

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                                          You can play 1.5, 1.6, Conditon Zero, and Source.

                                          You can't play Global Offensive anymore, afaik. It did the same thing OW2 did, getting replaced entirely by CS2.

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                                          thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                                          But CS2 is basically Global Offensive. They "just" ported it over to the new engine. All items were kept and you didn't need to buy your items again, as it is the same account. Overwatch 2 on the other hand changed the entire formula (5v5 instead 6v6) and introduced lot of new game types and modes. So it's not exactly the same situation. Having said this, I wish Valve would have created a new game id and store page for the new version of the game. Such a shame.

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