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Following Backlash, the New 'Star Trek' Series Falls Out of the Streaming Charts

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  • S Squatcher

    I watched first episode of discovery it seemed good what goes so wrong? (I don't care about spoilers)

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    redacted@lemmy.zip
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    For me it was way too quipy. Felt like i was watching a marvel movie.

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    • T thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone

      Star Trek Deep Space Nine 2, of course.

      I want episodic sci-fi plots with an ensemble cast and minimal, yet still present, slow burn character growth and world building.

      I want a show that in one episode is willing to say the entirety of American culture is wantonly racist and the next be about playing baseball in VR, all complete with semi-stage play-style, scenery chewing acting. Giamatti delivered on that part, to be fair, but it just felt so mismatched with the rest of the chaos.

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      redacted@lemmy.zip
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      I just want garrick back tbh, and quark. Those two completely stole the show.

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      • E Encephalotrocity

        It felt like watching the WB. It's aiming for teen demo and I'm... not that.

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        Che Banana
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        Yes.
        that's exactly it.

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        • R redacted@lemmy.zip

          For me it was way too quipy. Felt like i was watching a marvel movie.

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          Squatcher
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          Ok got it they marvel fied star trek

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          • T thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            Star Trek Deep Space Nine 2, of course.

            I want episodic sci-fi plots with an ensemble cast and minimal, yet still present, slow burn character growth and world building.

            I want a show that in one episode is willing to say the entirety of American culture is wantonly racist and the next be about playing baseball in VR, all complete with semi-stage play-style, scenery chewing acting. Giamatti delivered on that part, to be fair, but it just felt so mismatched with the rest of the chaos.

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            Prove_your_argument
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            Come on, you were so close when you almost said Babylon 5.

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            • C cmdrshepard49@sh.itjust.works

              If we were only 4 episodes into DS9's original airing, people would be losing their minds complaining about how terrible of a show it is. The first season was terrible.

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              thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              That is a phenomenal point

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              • P Prove_your_argument

                Come on, you were so close when you almost said Babylon 5.

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                thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                I don't know what DS9's secret sauce is because I've tried to get into Babylon 5 a few times and it never hooks me. I don't think it can be just the cultural cache of Star Trek, but it's something.

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                • T thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                  I don't know what DS9's secret sauce is because I've tried to get into Babylon 5 a few times and it never hooks me. I don't think it can be just the cultural cache of Star Trek, but it's something.

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                  Prove_your_argument
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                  Don't get me wrong man, I binge star trek routinely. I'm currently hopping between DS9 and Voyager.

                  B5 just hits harder in a different way. It elicits an emotional response with the finale that tops even the most soul crushing anime like Your lie in April and Angel Beats. It has tons of parallels to today's world and the story goes well beyond a bite sized episode.

                  It's got it's flaws. There are plenty of episodes that are rough patches especially in S1, and S5 can be very meh, but for it's time it's a marvel. In a world of sitcoms and one offs it delivered a story with tons of plots that go beyond just a two part episode. It's a show that feels way more modern in good ways despite the low resolution and relatively small budget.

                  Like any show though, it's not for everyone. It never got the mass appeal that star trek attained, but it feels like a much more realistic future than star trek will ever be unfortunately.

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                  • P pedromaldonado@lemmy.world

                    WTF? What do you people want????

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                    Tar_Alcaran
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                    I want more Strange New Worlds, not more Discovery.

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                    • P pedromaldonado@lemmy.world

                      WTF? What do you people want????

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                      rakonat@lemmy.world
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                      Something that isn't form over substance.

                      Nu Trek is all about looking flashy without any real thought put past that. The stories and themes are poorly written and presented, characters that should be highly trained professionals acting like they just graduated high school last week and maybe skimmed the chapter names of their particular profession. Contradictory retcons of established lore for no real reason than the writer thought it would be cool.

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                      • S Squatcher

                        Ok got it they marvel fied star trek

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                        redacted@lemmy.zip
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                        It really did feel like "Disney presents: Star Trek"

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                          iww4@lemmy.zip
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                          If by backlash, the article means people don’t want a terrible show, than yeah it is a backlash.

                          This show is just so bad.

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                          • P pedromaldonado@lemmy.world

                            WTF? What do you people want????

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                            iww4@lemmy.zip
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                            .. A show that is good.

                            This show is terrible.

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                            • R reddig33@lemmy.world

                              It’s strange that they doubled down on ”Discovery: The Sequel” and expected success. It reminds me of when everyone hated the Star Trek Enterprise theme song, so instead of replacing it the producers just “jazzed it up”.

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                              tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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                              And the "jazzed up" version just made it worse.

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                              • I iww4@lemmy.zip

                                If by backlash, the article means people don’t want a terrible show, than yeah it is a backlash.

                                This show is just so bad.

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                                tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
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                                Lol yeah, as if to say it's somehow not the fault of the show that it's bad, but the fault of the audience for not liking it.

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                                  I dunno about the attacks, I watched the first few and I thought it was okay but it's just another school/college/university/academy version of a show, doesn't feel like boldly going where no one has gone before. I don't have any problem with it persay just eh.

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                                  mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                                  My friend says it reminds him of Harry Potter

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                                  • T Tar_Alcaran

                                    I want more Strange New Worlds, not more Discovery.

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                                    mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                                    Set post-DS9 please

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                                    • T tiramichu@sh.itjust.works

                                      Lol yeah, as if to say it's somehow not the fault of the show that it's bad, but the fault of the audience for not liking it.

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                                      thealbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      This is Paramount's song and dance for all the new Trek shows that fail to land. They get a few big names to say "It's Just Like The Shows You Love!" and then blame malicious actors for the poor reception.

                                      It's so exhausting.

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                                      • C cmdrshepard49@sh.itjust.works

                                        If we were only 4 episodes into DS9's original airing, people would be losing their minds complaining about how terrible of a show it is. The first season was terrible.

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                                        iww4@lemmy.zip
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                                        We were saying that.

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                                        • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                                          Set post-DS9 please

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                                          Tar_Alcaran
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                                          Or even post-voyager, that's fine too.

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