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GOG caught using AI tools, head of product tweeting AI Instagram scams

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  • U unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de

    Reminder to actually download and archive all the game files you bought on gog. They might not be there for much longer.

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    Any projects to auto archive everything?

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    • F fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one

      If you're talking about some sysdmin and database jobs sure, but a good chunk of those jobs you see disappearing at a more technical level are just executives chasing fomo. And yes, considering how you're engaging with the topic I'm not surprised that you don't see understand the difference a revolution in the way we engage with labor and an executive cutting costs to justify the ever-increasing price of a limited use service.

      I understand that you are expressing how you feel about the subject, but it is not based in reality, you were describing a fiction sold to you by people who are incentivized to make you believe something is happening that is not happening.

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      yarny@lemmy.ml
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      #16

      You've mentioned pursuit of profit and executives cutting costs, but again that isn't a fault of AI, that is a fault of the system. AI is a tool, like any other technology that we've made. I think it's a waste of time to try and stop it, and any effort you put into stopping AI would be better spent on trying to fix/destroy the system that we have as a whole.

      All other technology we have created has done what you say AI is doing, so your dislike of AI specifically doesn't make sense to me based on those two things.

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      • yarny@lemmy.mlY yarny@lemmy.ml

        I know people hate AI (I am included in that group), however trying to get companies to stop using AI is a waste of energy. I believe that technology is going to keep progressing, potentially at the cost of the human race, unless something fundamentally changes in our system. We've already gotten rid of multiple jobs and destroyed the environment due to technology, so I don't see how AI is any different. Although I suppose AI actually has the power to straight up replace human beings if it ever becomes that intelligent.

        Edit: AI is a new technology, but so was the car, computer, and smartphone. All of these things have changed the world for better or worse (I'd argue worse, I think anyone that looks at the dire state of our planet would agree). I merely make the claim that AI is the next thing of that. Hate it or like it, it is probably here to stay unless the system as a whole changes, which is where our energy should be focused.

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        ladymeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        And how do the AI instagram scams fit?

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        • ScottS Scott

          Any projects to auto archive everything?

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          cybernihongo@reddthat.com
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          I hear of lgogdownloader. There's plenty of projects like this. I second the notion to download all your stuff, or as much as you can now.

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          • L ladymeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            And how do the AI instagram scams fit?

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            yarny@lemmy.ml
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            My comment was in reference to the "GOG caught using AI tools" part, not the scam part. I didn't bother to watch the video on the other half of the title.

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            • yarny@lemmy.mlY yarny@lemmy.ml

              I know people hate AI (I am included in that group), however trying to get companies to stop using AI is a waste of energy. I believe that technology is going to keep progressing, potentially at the cost of the human race, unless something fundamentally changes in our system. We've already gotten rid of multiple jobs and destroyed the environment due to technology, so I don't see how AI is any different. Although I suppose AI actually has the power to straight up replace human beings if it ever becomes that intelligent.

              Edit: AI is a new technology, but so was the car, computer, and smartphone. All of these things have changed the world for better or worse (I'd argue worse, I think anyone that looks at the dire state of our planet would agree). I merely make the claim that AI is the next thing of that. Hate it or like it, it is probably here to stay unless the system as a whole changes, which is where our energy should be focused.

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              lfrith@lemmy.ca
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              Ironic to argue that trying to stop AI is a waste of energy given how much energy is wasted to use AI. Could have used better phrasing in your quest to get people to stop being negative towards AI.

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                dovahking@lemmy.world
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                GOG caught using AI tools, head of product tweeting AI Instagram scams

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                • yarny@lemmy.mlY yarny@lemmy.ml

                  I know people hate AI (I am included in that group), however trying to get companies to stop using AI is a waste of energy. I believe that technology is going to keep progressing, potentially at the cost of the human race, unless something fundamentally changes in our system. We've already gotten rid of multiple jobs and destroyed the environment due to technology, so I don't see how AI is any different. Although I suppose AI actually has the power to straight up replace human beings if it ever becomes that intelligent.

                  Edit: AI is a new technology, but so was the car, computer, and smartphone. All of these things have changed the world for better or worse (I'd argue worse, I think anyone that looks at the dire state of our planet would agree). I merely make the claim that AI is the next thing of that. Hate it or like it, it is probably here to stay unless the system as a whole changes, which is where our energy should be focused.

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                  talkingflower@lemmy.world
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                  #22

                  AI is a very good summarizer, and I use it to reformat and modernise tons of legal texts into markdown and an easier-to-read format for my own reference at work, which I would not dare ask another human being to brave such mundane work. I really don't see the appeal of AI in art other than place holder.

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                  • C cybernihongo@reddthat.com

                    (Video not by me)

                    PC Gamer and GamingOnLinux recently covered a few things about GOG's usage of genAI for promotional content, but this video goes into deeper coverage about their Head of Product being responsible for their direction. (Cue scam AI Instagram girls). It also covers how the company chose to respond to the backlash regarding their usage of genAI.

                    It's sad to see them being brazen about their AI usage. I advocated for them several times, owning games (anything, really) is something that should be for granted. All of this makes their store look really cheap and turns off people from thinking about the idea.

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                    chunes@lemmy.world
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                    Once again, you don't have to agree with every single thing an organization does or believes to recognize they do good work. Touch some grass.

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                    • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                      I don't care much at all that they used an AI generated banner ad for a store sale, but plenty of people do, and it was predictable that they would. If they wanted to save money, it would have only cost them a single game's revenue to find someone on Fiverr to make a similar graphic.

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                      anon518@sh.itjust.works
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                      But people on Fiverr are probably now using AI too. So you might end up paying someone to use AI instead of just using AI yourself.

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                      • C cybernihongo@reddthat.com

                        I hear of lgogdownloader. There's plenty of projects like this. I second the notion to download all your stuff, or as much as you can now.

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                        xvertigox@lemmy.world
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                        I can vouch for lgogdownloader.

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                        • C cybernihongo@reddthat.com

                          (Video not by me)

                          PC Gamer and GamingOnLinux recently covered a few things about GOG's usage of genAI for promotional content, but this video goes into deeper coverage about their Head of Product being responsible for their direction. (Cue scam AI Instagram girls). It also covers how the company chose to respond to the backlash regarding their usage of genAI.

                          It's sad to see them being brazen about their AI usage. I advocated for them several times, owning games (anything, really) is something that should be for granted. All of this makes their store look really cheap and turns off people from thinking about the idea.

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                          oplkill@lemmy.world
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                          Steam do nothing: wins

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                          • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                            I don't care much at all that they used an AI generated banner ad for a store sale, but plenty of people do, and it was predictable that they would. If they wanted to save money, it would have only cost them a single game's revenue to find someone on Fiverr to make a similar graphic.

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                            metastatistical@lemmy.zip
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                            As somebody who has used Fiverr, there's a lot of good artists on there, but it does not cost five dollars.

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                            • metastatistical@lemmy.zipM metastatistical@lemmy.zip

                              As somebody who has used Fiverr, there's a lot of good artists on there, but it does not cost five dollars.

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                              ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                              Not anymore, but I doubt a graphic like the one they used would have cost a pretty penny.

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                              • O oplkill@lemmy.world

                                Steam do nothing: wins

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                                mic_check_one_two@reddthat.com
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                                Steam’s business model of “do nothing and watch every single competitor repeatedly shoot their own feet” seems to work really well.

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                                • O oplkill@lemmy.world

                                  Steam do nothing: wins

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                                  cybernihongo@reddthat.com
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                                  Caving in to the anti-NSFW demands is "doing nothing"? Paid mods? Not offering refunds for more than a decade? Being one of the first to popularize loot boxes and with it "marketplaces" of items that don't exist, where you aren't even guaranteed the horse armor you want to buy? Literally destroying physical media, used games, and game ownership in one fell swoop so we have to rely on GOG to get the latter back in some form? Damn, their logo must really have the same memetic effects the Apple one has.

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                                    Caving in to the anti-NSFW demands is "doing nothing"? Paid mods? Not offering refunds for more than a decade? Being one of the first to popularize loot boxes and with it "marketplaces" of items that don't exist, where you aren't even guaranteed the horse armor you want to buy? Literally destroying physical media, used games, and game ownership in one fell swoop so we have to rely on GOG to get the latter back in some form? Damn, their logo must really have the same memetic effects the Apple one has.

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                                    afaix@lemmy.world
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                                    I agree with a lot of this except for destroying physical media. Even consoles went digital, music and movies are digital, I don’t think steam is responsible here

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                                    • A afaix@lemmy.world

                                      I agree with a lot of this except for destroying physical media. Even consoles went digital, music and movies are digital, I don’t think steam is responsible here

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                                      cybernihongo@reddthat.com
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                                      They are responsible. They planted the seeds with HL2 as early as 2004. Then they essentially made it not only feasible but also popular to make the physical games of even third parties be just glorified one use digital codes, and all of this waaaaay before 2013's Xbox One attempted to do similar things and got booed very hard.

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                                        Caving in to the anti-NSFW demands is "doing nothing"? Paid mods? Not offering refunds for more than a decade? Being one of the first to popularize loot boxes and with it "marketplaces" of items that don't exist, where you aren't even guaranteed the horse armor you want to buy? Literally destroying physical media, used games, and game ownership in one fell swoop so we have to rely on GOG to get the latter back in some form? Damn, their logo must really have the same memetic effects the Apple one has.

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                                        Alright here is my response(am not defending Valve or calling them Saints bere)

                                        Caving in to the anti-NSFW demands is “doing nothing”?

                                        IIRC Didnt Visa and Mastercard pressure them

                                        Paid mods?

                                        thats a thing?

                                        Not offering refunds for more than a decade?

                                        i heard a government pressured them to doing this,yeah that sucks though

                                        Being one of the first to popularize loot boxes and with it “marketplaces” of items that don’t exist, where you aren’t even guaranteed the horse armor you want to buy?

                                        Yeah that sucks to,but for me its fine for F2P Video games and if its not P2W
                                        Donationware would be cool too 👍

                                        literally destroying physical media, used games, and game ownership in one fell swoop so we have to rely on GOG to get the latter back in some form?

                                        Didnt everything move digital?
                                        but
                                        for the most part Steam/Valve did kinda destroy physical Medium,there are sometimes video games that are sold on DVDS/CDS(Video games,Music)
                                        i think for non-DRM Games you can Still own it on Steam???
                                        and used games well i think the digital switch killed it, but if the franchise still has physical Medium it is still possible.

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                                        • C cybernihongo@reddthat.com

                                          They are responsible. They planted the seeds with HL2 as early as 2004. Then they essentially made it not only feasible but also popular to make the physical games of even third parties be just glorified one use digital codes, and all of this waaaaay before 2013's Xbox One attempted to do similar things and got booed very hard.

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                                          afaix@lemmy.world
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                                          PC games were always weird with physical media though, shareware and piracy were prevalent since the 80s. And the physical games were even worse than digital in some regards, with Starforce and Securom rootkit-like drm that crashes modern PCs or Games for Windows Live locking save files (and not even cloud saves, normal local save files) behind online service that is now dead.
                                          I resisted making a steam account for as long as I could, but today no one even owns a disc drive, steam just won on convenience

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