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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    Their idol Mao killed approx 160 million humans.

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    braininabox@lemmy.ml
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    Damn, out jerking the black book of communism by an order of magnitude. You're really going for it

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    • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

      Uh huh. You know you've got nothing when you're reduced to trying to do the rhetorical version of the "Who's on first" bit.

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      #146

      I agree. Why did you do that?

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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        fermionsnotbosons@lemmy.ml
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        #147

        Go on then, git!!

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        • artyomA artyom

          I agree. Why did you do that?

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          braininabox@lemmy.ml
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          Lol. I know you are but what am I?

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          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

            Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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            thoro@lemmy.ml
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            #149

            Days in the fediverse comm without explicit anti-communism and red scare fearmongering: 0

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            • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

              Where did I say civilians?

              In the linked chain, repeatedly.

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              realitista@lemmus.org
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              #150

              That is untrue. I never said it. And for the record I only believe in hitting military targets and those of politicians and military officials involved in the war.

              Also I think you are cherry picking. They have censored me more times than that. Maybe it was on my now defunct lemm.ee account.

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              • artyomA artyom

                AKA "whataboutism".

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                wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
                #151

                whataboutism is a thought-terminating cliche.

                it ends up a very effective way of shutting down comparison between them.

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                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                  The difference is that I don't get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.

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                  wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
                  #152

                  criticizing trump or us military interventions is pretty much all i do on ml, grad, hexbear

                  i eventually leave or get banned from the anarcho lib comms for doing that.

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                    criticizing trump or us military interventions is pretty much all i do on ml, grad, hexbear

                    i eventually leave or get banned from the anarcho lib comms for doing that.

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                    realitista@lemmus.org
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                    Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.

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                    • R realitista@lemmus.org

                      That is untrue. I never said it. And for the record I only believe in hitting military targets and those of politicians and military officials involved in the war.

                      Also I think you are cherry picking. They have censored me more times than that. Maybe it was on my now defunct lemm.ee account.

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                      braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                      #154

                      Ok. Anyone can easily click the link to verify that you're lying, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

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                      • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

                        Ok. Anyone can easily click the link to verify that you're lying, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

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                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                        Yes they can see I did not

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                          whataboutism is a thought-terminating cliche.

                          it ends up a very effective way of shutting down comparison between them.

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                          artyom
                          wrote last edited by artyom@piefed.social
                          #156

                          The whole point is that there is no comparison necessary. It's nothing but a deflection.

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                          • R realitista@lemmus.org

                            Yes they can see I did not

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                            braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                            So, again, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by lying about this.

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                            • davel@lemmy.mlD davel@lemmy.ml

                              What’s rampant is imperial core propaganda. You see the “Chinese propaganda” as “rampant” because you’re used to seeing only imperial core propaganda, which is how the internet looks on corporate media, including corporate social media.

                              Previously:

                              The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

                              The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.
                              This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

                              The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

                              None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.

                              • Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
                              • Propaganda model
                              • Edward Bernays
                              • Walter Lippmann
                              • Council on Foreign Relations
                              • Powell Memorandum
                              • The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy

                              * I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before:

                              • https://lemmy.ml/post/12705767/8913172
                              • https://lemmy.ml/post/13566156/9605612
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                              goat@sh.itjust.works
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                              ah yes, corporate media such as... the BBC

                              truly yank brained

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                              • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

                                So, again, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by lying about this.

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                                realitista@lemmus.org
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                                I don't know what you are trying to accomplish by lying about this.

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                                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                  I don't know what you are trying to accomplish by lying about this.

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                                  braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                                  Lol. "I know you are but what am I!"

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                                  • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                    Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.

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                                    we have reservations about, and criticize them all the time.

                                    what i don't really see being tolerated is insistent propaganda talking points or trolling, and even then most will talk to you if you are reasonable.

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                                    • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                      Well sure you can criticize Trump there. But try criticizing the CCCP, China, or Russia.

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                                      braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                                      I can and do

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                                        we have reservations about, and criticize them all the time.

                                        what i don't really see being tolerated is insistent propaganda talking points or trolling, and even then most will talk to you if you are reasonable.

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                                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                                        Insistent propaganda talking points and trolling are tolerated if they are from the Russian or China/CCP perspective. Honestly that's about all there is on their news or politics discussions.

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                                        • artyomA artyom

                                          The whole point is that there is no comparison necessary. It's nothing but a deflection.

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                                          wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
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                                          you are getting the deflection backwards. the comparison is very necessary when the problems and contradictions in the countries being smeared pale in comparison.

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